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Interview: Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes and Will Arnett Interview Joe Biden - November 2, 2022

  • Joe Biden
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  • Will Arnett
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  • Jason Bateman
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  • Sean Hayes
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Joe Biden

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You're making me famous with my granddaughters, you guys. I -- I -- 1

Sean Hayes

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This is -- this is wild. This is unbelievable for all of us. So, thank you for being here. It's such an honor. Thank you. 2

Joe Biden

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Oh, no, it's an honor to be on. I mean, what -- what you guys did to lift people's spirits is important. 3

Sean Hayes

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Well, thanks. 4

Jason Bateman

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Well -- 5

Joe Biden

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It's been a tough time. 6

Jason Bateman

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And -- and we're surprised that just our -- our silly little chitchats are -- are making people grin. But I guess we'll just -- we'll keep at it because a smile is always worth this -- 7

Will Arnett

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Yeah. 8

Sean Hayes

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Especially nowadays. 9

Will Arnett

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And we -- we often have a lot of -- you know, we started by getting a lot of our friends on here and people who are performers and people who are -- and so, Sean won't be able to ask his normal question: Do you have any great theater? 10

Joe Biden

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I got a lot of great theater. 11

Will Arnett

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Oh, right. Right. 12

Joe Biden

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Well, I know Trump. 13

Sean Hayes

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That's the best theater ever. 14

Joe Biden

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A lot of theater. 15

Sean Hayes

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Hey -- 16

Will Arnett

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[Inaudible] 17

Sean Hayes

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Before we start -- I don't have a question. I just want to say a thank you for something, and I have to read a quote that you -- you said almost 10 years ago. And now that you're sitting in front of me, and it's such an honor, and I'm shaking a little bit, but you said -- 18

Jason Bateman

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A lot of that is sugar. 19

Sean Hayes

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Oh, sugar I ate earlier. I -- you said, I think Will and Grace did more to educate the American public more than almost anything anybody has done so far. And as much as [Inaudible] 20

Joe Biden

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And by the way, you did. 21

Sean Hayes

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Thank you. And I was sitting on the couch. I nearly fell out of my -- my seat. And it -- it just meant so much to me and a million other people -- millions of other people that you recognized us and spoke up for us. So, thank you. I have no question. I just wanted to say thank you. 22

Joe Biden

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No, no. I don't think it was a quote. But look, I -- but it's the truth. You know, people are afraid of what they don't know. 23

Sean Hayes

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Yeah. 24

Joe Biden

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And they're -- they're frightened of it. And they had images that every gay person in the world or lesbian was an extremist on everything. I mean, it's -- 25

Jason Bateman

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Right. Right. 26

Joe Biden

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But it's like -- 27

Sean Hayes

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We're just as boring as everybody else. 28

Joe Biden

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Well, that's true -- 29

Sean Hayes

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Yeah. 30

Joe Biden

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By the way. 31

Jason Bateman

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Look at his zipped-up cardigan there. 32

Will Arnett

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Often more -- often more -- often far more boring. 33

Joe Biden

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No, no, but -- but think -- think about it. You know, the first -- you made it clear that a gay person's interest and -- and life is not any fundamentally different. 34

Sean Hayes

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Yeah. 35

Joe Biden

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I mean, they have the same fears, concerns, ambitions, likes. I mean -- 36

Sean Hayes

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Yeah, I know. 37

Joe Biden

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It's normal. 38

Sean Hayes

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Yeah. And thank you for giving us the right -- the same rights as everybody else. 39

Jason Bateman

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Speaking of Sean -- 40

Sean Hayes

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Yeah. 41

Jason Bateman

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You -- you clearly -- you've stated your love for Will and Grace. Now, that makes me think, what other television shows are you able to watch now that you've got a fairly busy job? Is there any TV time for you? 42

Sean Hayes

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Yeah. 43

Joe Biden

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Yeah, well, the honest-to-God truth is it's a joke among my granddaughters who -- very little. When I have time on television, what I tend to do is I tend to -- 44

Will Arnett

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You watch the news? 45

Joe Biden

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Watch sports or watch the news. And by the way, I don't work harder. A lot of people work a hell a lot harder than I do. 46

Jason Bateman

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I don't know about that. 47

Joe Biden

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But -- but there's just not that many hours. Do you know what I mean? 48

Sean Hayes

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Yeah. 49

Jason Bateman

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But I -- I wanted to like -- because we -- we -- we're not bright enough to ask you really smart questions. I'm really -- 50

Joe Biden

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Oh, come on. 51

Jason Bateman

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I'm really -- I'm -- I'm such a big fan of you as -- as just -- obviously, we've never met before, although I did shake your hand on a school trip in the ninth grade in Delaware, and you were very nice. But I want to know -- 52

Will Arnett

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Expand on that. 53

Jason Bateman

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I want to know -- 54

Sean Hayes

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How have you been since? 55

Jason Bateman

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You were so sweet to our class. But, like, what time does the day wrap up for you? What -- what -- what -- you go you upstairs -- 56

Will Arnett

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You want to know bedtime. 57

Jason Bateman

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Well, I want to know what goes on when -- 58

Joe Biden

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Well, my staff is laughing. They're behind you. 59

Jason Bateman

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When -- but when you go upstairs, you're not lounging around in that. Is there a transition into -- I'm asking because I'm projecting because I get in my PJs as soon as I get home. You get into the PJs. You let them know what you want for dinner, and then you start watching TV with Jill. Is that what -- what -- what happens? 60

Joe Biden

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Now, that's one of the things Jill and I are working out. And I mean this sincerely. 61

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 62

Joe Biden

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Jill, because she teaches full time -- 63

Will Arnett

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Yeah. 64

Joe Biden

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Is in bed by 9:30, and -- and I used to go to bed 9:30, 10 o'clock, and we talk before we go to sleep. I mean, we -- we spend time together. 65

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 66

Joe Biden

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But now, I don't get back to my -- even in the White House, I don't get from the Oval Office into my -- in the residence -- 67

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 68

Joe Biden

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Until usually around 7 o'clock. 69

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 70

Will Arnett

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Yeah. 71

Joe Biden

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We have dinner. And then I have -- and I'm not -- not a complaint. I give my word, but I have a briefing book that is probably 200 pages. 72

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 73

Will Arnett

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Yeah. 74

Joe Biden

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I mean, a big binder like that. 75

Will Arnett

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Yeah. 76

Jason Bateman

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Mine has two pages and -- 77

Will Arnett

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Yeah, and they're all deals. 78

Joe Biden

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No, but -- but worst part, you guys got to memorize your lines. But all kidding aside, so I -- I usually get in bed around 11 o'clock. 79

Sean Hayes

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Oh, wow. 80

Joe Biden

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Jill gets up at 6:30 and goes -- works out. I get up at 8 o'clock and work out. 81

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 82

Sean Hayes

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But wait, I want to know -- I want to know, though. When -- when you -- is there a time that when you're exercising with Jill -- is there a time where you guys can go away -- 83

Will Arnett

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Yeah. 84

Sean Hayes

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And shut it off and just be like -- 85

Joe Biden

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Yes. 86

Sean Hayes

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Yeah, because -- 87

Joe Biden

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Well, we -- we just have to do it because she's worked so long as well. So, we just set time, and I tell Annie, who runs the show for me and my -- and my chief of staff, I'm not doing anything. And so, Jill and I -- but it's -- they're -- they're getting further apart. I mean, in the sense. But usually, we try to do that. 88

Joe Biden

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We go to Camp David or -- or go back to our house in Delaware, which is secluded enough off the road, that we just, you know, and -- 89

Sean Hayes

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And can you really not think about work and you really kind of calm down or is it always there? 90

Joe Biden

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Well, yeah. No. Well, there's certain things that -- I mean, like with the war in Ukraine, there's a lot of really -- 91

Will Arnett

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Yeah. 92

Jason Bateman

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You got to stay available. 93

Will Arnett

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Sure. 94

Joe Biden

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But no, I'm always available, but I -- 95

Jason Bateman

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Do they try to protect -- obviously, weekends are not off, but you get to go to church on Sundays or you get a little sports time? 96

Joe Biden

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Well, here's what I do. My -- my -- my worst part is I -- they -- they kid me and everybody kids me. I'm -- I'm one of those practicing Catholics. My mother come down from heaven if I didn't. 97

Sean Hayes

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Yeah. 98

Joe Biden

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But I go to -- I go to -- I don't want to tell everybody because I'll be there. But I -- I go to 5 o'clock mass in my local church. 99

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 100

Joe Biden

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Or I go to -- in Washington, I go over to Georgetown to the [Inaudible] 101

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 102

Joe Biden

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And I go to -- there's a 5:00 -- well, there's a 4:30 mass, and I go to mass on Saturday. And then Sunday, I -- we just try to -- try to do nothing. 103

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 104

Will Arnett

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Yeah, that's great. I mean, that's pretty good. 105

Sean Hayes

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I think you have to. 106

Jason Bateman

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You watch a football game or something like that, perhaps. 107

Joe Biden

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Yeah. 108

Jason Bateman

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Yeah? 109

Joe Biden

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Yeah. 110

Will Arnett

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What's your No. 1 sport if you had to rank them that you like to watch? 111

Joe Biden

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Well, my No. 1 sport is football. 112

Will Arnett

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Yeah. 113

Joe Biden

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But it's changed so much. I -- I was a relatively good ballplayer and -- 114

Jason Bateman

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What position? 115

Joe Biden

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A high scorer. I was a flanker back, a halfback. 116

Jason Bateman

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Really. 117

Joe Biden

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And -- 118

Sean Hayes

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I like flanks, too. 119

Joe Biden

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And -- yeah. 120

Sean Hayes

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I'm just saying. 121

Jason Bateman

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Don't pay any attention -- 122

Will Arnett

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You're just saying word association. 123

Sean Hayes

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Yeah, I'm just [Inaudible] 124

Joe Biden

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But it's a sport that I -- that I watch probably more than any other [Inaudible] 125

Jason Bateman

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You're not -- you're not a terrible golfer. 126

Joe Biden

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Now -- 127

Jason Bateman

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I -- I looked up your index. 128

Joe Biden

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I used to be pretty good. I haven't played golf on three -- 129

Jason Bateman

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Your current index is a 6 7, I believe, which puts you at about a 12, a handicap. What is the best part of your golf game: off the tee, chipping, putting? 130

Joe Biden

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Off the tee. 131

Jason Bateman

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Off the tee. 132

Will Arnett

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Yeah, of course, it is. 133

Jason Bateman

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Do you hit it far? 134

Joe Biden

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Well, yeah. Three years ago, I did. I haven't played much. 135

Will Arnett

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Yeah. 136

Joe Biden

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We added up, they figured out that I try to -- when I -- when I'm home in Delaware, it was a place I can go where I can play -- it's a -- it's a private club. It's called Fieldstone. But I -- I play -- all of this is golf, and I get in. I've -- I've not played 18 holes lately. I've nine holes and -- 137

Will Arnett

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I'm with you on that. We play a lot. Jason and I play a lot of golf, and it's [Inaudible] 138

Sean Hayes

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Will, big things. He thinks golf should be 12 holes. 139

Will Arnett

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I think it should be 12 holes. I think it should be six and six. I think that'd be perfect. 140

Joe Biden

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By the way, there's a lot of national debate about that. 141

Will Arnett

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Is there really? 142

Joe Biden

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Yeah, there is about [Inaudible] 143

Will Arnett

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Do you want to appoint me the golf czar? 144

Sean Hayes

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Just because he's [Inaudible] 145

Jason Bateman

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At 12 usually. It falls apart on the 12th fall, and he just starts whining. 146

Will Arnett

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I'm 52, and I'm tired. And I like to spend time with my kids. 147

Jason Bateman

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You work on your game. 148

Joe Biden

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By the way, that's my best recreation, my granddaughters. 149

Will Arnett

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Yeah. 150

Joe Biden

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They're crazy about me. 151

Will Arnett

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I don't blame them. [Crosstalk] 152

Joe Biden

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I know you think I'm kidding. [Crosstalk] 153

Joe Biden

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Every single day, I contact every one of my grandchildren. 154

Sean Hayes

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That's amazing. 155

Jason Bateman

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All right. You got to pick one of these three things as the coolest thing about -- about being the man. Is it the White House, is it Air Force One, or is it the Beast? Which -- you can only -- you can only -- 156

Will Arnett

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You don't mean Marshawn Lynch? 157

Jason Bateman

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I do not. I'm talking about the car. 158

Will Arnett

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OK. 159

Jason Bateman

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Which -- which -- which is -- which -- which -- 160

Joe Biden

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Air Force One. 161

Will Arnett

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It's Air Force One. It's got to be Air Force One. 162

Sean Hayes

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Yeah, it's got to be, right? 163

Joe Biden

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Well, the good news is the plane never leaves until I get there now. You know. 164

Sean Hayes

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Do you always get the seat you want? Do you always get the seat you want or is there sometimes there's someone in it and you got to go to the back? 165

Jason Bateman

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I would love to see the inside of Air Force One. 166

Joe Biden

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Sean, I'll take you through it. 167

Sean Hayes

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I would -- 168

Joe Biden

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You guys -- 169

Sean Hayes

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I would go crazy. 170

Will Arnett

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God, they were dripping, we're begging for an invite. 171

Sean Hayes

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No, I'm -- 172

Joe Biden

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No, I'm serious. Happy to share [Inaudible] 173

Will Arnett

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Sean, you're only -- you only -- I thought you were going to say I'd love to do a Will and Grace reunion on Air Force One. 174

Jason Bateman

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And we will be right back. [Commercial break] 175

Jason Bateman

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All right. Back to the show. 176

Will Arnett

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OK. So, people in this country never before has it felt like -- and I looked back -- you know, I spent a little bit of time looking back over the way that people spoke and politicians spoke and etc., especially in the 20th century. And a lot of the same verbiage was used to scare people, to make -- put people -- to divide people. 177

Sean Hayes

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Right. Right. 178

Will Arnett

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And it was you -- and -- and people say, well, no, this is new. Historically, that has been something. But never before has it seemed like common ground was so far off in the distance. And I'm trying to understand why because we all share -- I had an experience recently where I spent some time with somebody and I didn't find out until later that their perspective on the world was very different from mine. 179

Will Arnett

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But when I -- he and I were speaking and hanging out one on one, we got along very fine, and I thought, wow, isn't that funny? 180

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 181

Will Arnett

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If I didn't know anything about his politics, he and I got along great. What is it we can do to try to get that back? Because I -- I think that that's something you talk about a lot. 182

Joe Biden

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Well, I do. Look, guys, I had no intention to run for president again. For real. 183

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 184

Joe Biden

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Or running for office. I was a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, enjoying it, and put together an institute up there. And -- and when those folks came out of the fields, literally carrying torches down in Charlottesville, and the last guy said, "There are good people on both sides," and that young woman was killed, I realized that -- that we are at an inflection point in history. 185

Joe Biden

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And it occurs every three, five, seven generations that what happens in the near term, in this case, the next two to three, five years, the last several years, is going to determine what it looks like for the next several generations. And -- and -- and the context was my -- my son had just died. And so, we have a tradition in our family. 186

Joe Biden

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Anyone in the family, any kid can ask for a family meeting. This is dead serious. I'm not joking about this, as well as my -- my dad's family when I was growing up. And so, I got a call from my oldest granddaughter and saying, "Pop, we want to have a family meeting." She was a freshman -- either a senior at Penn or a freshman at Columbia Law. 187

Joe Biden

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And then my other granddaughter, Finnegan Biden. She's a brilliant kid. She's a wonderful kid. She's my secret weapon. She was, I think, a sophomore at Penn. And anyway -- 188

Jason Bateman

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A couple of dummies, huh? 189

Joe Biden

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00:13:27-00:13:32 (4 sec)
Well, I -- no, I don't mean that. I meant they were close to me [Inaudible] from my house. 190

Jason Bateman

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Gotcha. 191

Joe Biden

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And -- and then I had another granddaughter who was a senior in high school and then a granddaughter who was a sophomore in high school and a -- and a grandson who was, I'm thinking, seventh or eighth grade. And they came in, and they sat down, and they said, "Pop, you really should run." And I didn't want to run because I knew it was going to be ugly. 192

Joe Biden

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00:13:52-00:14:00 (8 sec)
And keep in mind, just like your -- your children in the show business, what with you in show business, they get used to the barbs, they get used to the accolades. 193

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 194

Joe Biden

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And so, they've been their whole life, either I've been a vice president or a senator and their dad or uncle had been attorney general and so on. And so, they said, "You got to run, Pop." Pop -- they call me pop. They said, "Pop, Uncle Beau wants you to run. Daddy wants you to run." Etc. And I said, "Well, it's going to be not -- it's not going to be very nice, honey." 195

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 196

Joe Biden

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And my little guy, little Hunter, he's now 16 years old. Wonderful kid. He took out his cellphone. He said, "Here's a picture, Pop. We know." And he showed me a picture. My wife hates me telling this story, but it's true. And it was a picture was me walking out of the -- out of the cathedral with my hand on my son's flag-draped coffin, the military escort, and my arm around him like I used to hold his dad to just reassure. 197

Joe Biden

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We're walking out. And the caption at the bottom said that Biden molests another child. And they said, "We know it's going to be tough." But here's the point about your question. I think the biggest thing that's changed is technology. There are no editors anymore. 198

Jason Bateman

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Right. 199

Joe Biden

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And so, you know, I -- you know, there's a lot been written, and I started to write a book about it, but I don't, obviously, have the time to do it now, that if you go all the way back to Gutenberg and the printing press, it changed the nature of the world and how nations got along. 200

Will Arnett

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These guys have never read a book, so just keep going. 201

Joe Biden

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No -- no. Well, I know. But look -- look, I'm -- I'm getting the television. But think about how things have changed. In every new technological change, it changed the way we interface with one another. 202

Will Arnett

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Yeah. 203

Joe Biden

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Whether it was the telegraph or the radio and then television. 204

Jason Bateman

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Right. Right. 205

Joe Biden

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But now, the internet, for the first time, there's no editors. 206

Jason Bateman

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Right. 207

Will Arnett

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Yes. 208

Joe Biden

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There's no editors at all. 209

Jason Bateman

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Right. 210

Joe Biden

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And so, how does somebody know what is true? 211

Will Arnett

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The difference. Yeah. And the difference between -- you know, I think that you should do an executive order where you could do, you can post on the internet, on social media, but you have to have your -- your name, your address, and your phone number. And then we'll see if people change their tone [Inaudible] 212

Sean Hayes

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00:16:41-00:16:51 (9 sec)
You know, there -- isn't there any way for the FCC or someone to -- to put a rating system or the equivalent of saying this is just opinion, this is actually fact? 213

Will Arnett

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Oh, you've wanted this for a long time? 214

Sean Hayes

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Just like you should be able to have to hit a certain threshold. You can't just -- everything can't look the same. It should have a little qualifier. Twitter does it or did it with the -- with the last guy's tweets. 215

Will Arnett

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I mean, we -- we live in an age where people decided to start politicizing science and medicine that -- that it's so absurd. And you go -- you know, I'm originally Canadian, and -- and I go back to Canada. I'm -- I am American now, sir, but -- 216

Joe Biden

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Oh, if I defect, I'm going to Canada. 217

Will Arnett

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Yeah, well, listen, and you can stay with my folks. 218

Sean Hayes

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I'll drive you. 219

Will Arnett

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Jim and Alex will take you any day. But -- but that idea that, like, how -- it's absurd. How are we politicizing this stuff that we used to take as fact? 220

Joe Biden

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00:17:53-00:18:08 (15 sec)
Well, look, that's -- that's true. And -- and if you notice, the generic polling about the American public, they're 40, 50, 60 percent are worried about the survival of democracy. 221

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 222

Will Arnett

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Yeah. 223

Joe Biden

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But it's not just here. It's all around the world -- 224

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 225

Will Arnett

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Yeah. 226

Joe Biden

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This notion of can -- you know, democracy, can it be sustained? But I'm optimistic, and I really am. 227

Will Arnett

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I love that. 228

Joe Biden

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No, but I -- I genuinely am because this younger generation, the ones you speak to up to -- I say up to 30 when I talk about the younger generation. 229

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 230

Joe Biden

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No, I'm not being facetious. I'm being deadly earnest. Is the best educated, the most open, the least prejudiced, the most giving generation in American history. 231

Jason Bateman

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Yeah. 232

Joe Biden

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And -- and we're going to break through this. We really, truly are. And you think about the things that how ugly things have gotten. But think about how much we've gotten done. I mean, did -- you know, when I ran, I said I was running for three reasons: to restore the soul of America; to rebuild the middle class, and because when the economy is built from the middle out, the poor do have a road up and the wealthy still do very well; and to -- and to unite the country. 233

Joe Biden

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The third part's being the hardest because I went through my career as being the guy who got a lot done with Democrats and Republicans for all those years I was in the Senate. Hell, I was there for 36 [Inaudible] 234

Will Arnett

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You started when you -- you were 29 when you became a senator. 235

Joe Biden

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Yeah. And -- and I -- and what's got me involved was the -- I came from a state, to its great shame, was segregated by law. And -- and we have the eighth largest Black population in America. And I was really moved by the Civil Rights Movement as a kid. And I remember, we moved down from Scranton, Pennsylvania when coal died. 236

Joe Biden

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My dad was not a coal miner, but he was a salesperson. And we moved back to this little town called Claymont, Delaware, and it used to be a big steel town. And we lived in what became projects, but at the time, they were apartment complexes that were modest compared to where we had lived. And I went to a little Catholic school called Holy Rosary, and it was across the street from the -- the fire station there. 237

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