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Press Gaggle: Karine Jean-Pierre Holds a Press Briefing on Air Force One - March 13, 2023

  • Jake Sullivan
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  • Karine Jean-Pierre
    Person
  • Question
    Person
Somewhat Positive

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:00:00-00:00:05 (6 sec)
All right. I got a quick thing at the top, and then I'll hand it over to Jake. 1

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:00:05-00:00:21 (16 sec)
So, good afternoon, everyone. As you all know, we're headed to San Diego, California, where the President will meet with -- with Prime Minister Anthony Albanese of Australia and Prime Minister Sunak of the United Kingdom and discuss the Australia, United Kingdom, United States -- or AUKUS -- partnership. 2

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Positive
00:00:21-00:00:29 (8 sec)
National Security Advisor -- as you'll see, standing to my right -- is here to talk a little bit about the AUKUS announcement coming today and take any of your questions. 3

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:00:29-00:00:46 (17 sec)
Before I turn it over to Jake: This morning, we announced that the Vice President will travel to Ghana, Tanzania, and Zambia from March 25th to April 2nd to strengthen our partnership throughout Africa and advance shared efforts on security and economic prosperity. 4

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:00:46-00:01:11 (25 sec)
Building on our progress at the U.S.-Africa Leaders Summit, which President Biden hosted on -- in December, the Vice President will expand access to the digital economy, support climate adaptation, and strengthen business ties. She will also discuss our commitment to democracy, economic growth, food security, and managing the efforts of Russia's brutal war in Ukraine, as well as engage with young leaders, business representatives, and members of the African diaspora. 5

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:01:11-00:01:13 (2 sec)
Now I'll turn it over to Jake Sullivan. 6

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:01:13-00:01:30 (17 sec)
Thanks, Karine. I know you guys have all participated in various background briefings and other seminars and advanced graduate courses on the ins and outs of AUKUS. So, since you all have your degrees in AUKUS, I'll be brief. 7

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:01:30-00:01:46 (16 sec)
I'll just say that we're excited to be on our way to San Diego to meet with Prime Minister Sunak and Prime Minister Albanese to formally announce the -- what we're calling the optimal pathway, the pathway that will make AUKUS a reality. 8

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:01:46-00:02:13 (27 sec)
When the leaders met virtually in September of 2021, they committed to work out the details of the AUKUS submarine partnership within 18 months. And that was September 15th of 2021; it's now March 13th of 2023. We're two days ahead of schedule. So, we will humbly accept all of your congratulations and positive vibes for that. 9

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:02:13-00:02:41 (28 sec)
But -- but, in all seriousness, the fact that we have done this in 18 months -- this amount of ambition, this amount of detail -- to have a multi-phase approach to deliver on the promise of AUKUS reflects not only an enormous amount of hard work, but leader-level engagement to make this a priority and to ensure that the right level of resources, attention, and commitment were there to deliver. 10

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:02:41-00:03:08 (28 sec)
What the leaders will lay out in a trilateral meeting today and then for the public is a multi-phase process that begins over the next few years and begins immediately with the training of Australian sailors, engineers, technicians, and other personnel to be able to take on the responsibility and stewardship of nuclear propulsion. 11

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:03:08-00:03:20 (11 sec)
And a few years down the line in the 2020s, you'll start to see the regular rotational deployment of U.S. and UK subs in Australia. 12

Jake Sullivan

Positive
00:03:20-00:03:38 (19 sec)
And a few years after that, in the early 2030s, the delivery of three Virginia-class subs from the United States to Australia over the course of the 2030s, with the possibility of going up to five if that is needed. 13

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:03:38-00:04:09 (31 sec)
And then, the final phase will be the not just design and development, but the actual deployment of a new boat -- a new conventionally armed nuclear-powered submarine, the SSN-AUKUS, which will be built with a UK hull and American technology, with significant investments in all three industrial bases: the U.S. industrial base, the UK industrial base, and the Australian industrial base. 14

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:04:09-00:04:36 (27 sec)
And I would reinforce that for that Virginia-class sale to Australia, the Australians are not only paying for those boats, they are also making a proportional contribution to the U.S. submarine industrial base -- to lift it so that we can accelerate the production and accelerate the ongoing maintenance of Virginia-class submarines over the course of the years ahead. 15

Jake Sullivan

Positive
00:04:36-00:05:14 (38 sec)
Just taking a step back, what AUKUS represents is a larger long-term investment by the United States in core alliances in the Indo-Pacific and also the actual concrete reflection of President Biden's strategy of linking allies in the Atlantic with allies in the Pacific. And it also reflects his commitment to ensuring that there is burden-sharing among our allies, as we've seen in the way that Europe has stepped up in the war in Ukraine, as we've seen how Japan has stepped up with its defense budget. 16

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:05:14-00:05:28 (14 sec)
Here, too, we're seeing other partners step up and shoulder their share of the burden not just financially and in terms of resources, but in terms of actual capability to bring to bear to safeguard security and stability. 17

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:05:28-00:05:42 (14 sec)
Final point I would make is: The United States has played a historic role in the Indo-Pacific of helping safeguard security and stability to the benefit of all countries in the me- -- in the region. And I mean all countries. 18

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:05:42-00:06:05 (23 sec)
And the United States believes that working closely with its allies and partners to ensure that we have the requisite capabilities for the next 50 years, as AUKUS will deliver, will help us continue to serve that important stabilizing role to help continue to safeguard peace and stability in this vital region of the world. And you'll hear that message from the President directly today. 19

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:06:05-00:06:21 (16 sec)
The President will also have the opportunity to meet bilaterally with each of Prime Minister Sunak and Prime Minister Albanese to cover a wide range of issues, obviously beyond just the submarines. And he'll look forward to the full agenda involved in -- in those two sessions as well. 20

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:06:21-00:06:23 (2 sec)
And, with that, I'd be happy to take your questions. 21

Question

Very Positive
00:06:23-00:06:38 (14 sec)
So, Jake, you didn't mention China in your opening remarks here. What message does the further development of AUKUS send to China about the U.S. commitment to the Indo-Pacific region, about countering China's own growing capabilities in the region? 22

Question

Somewhat Negative
00:06:38-00:06:55 (18 sec)
And are there any concerns that this -- about Australia's, sort of, commercial warming of ties with Beijing over the last several months? Is this -- is the President going to raise that with Prime Minister Albanese to, sort of, urge more caution in, sort of, restoring economic ties between Australia and China? 23

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:06:55-00:07:06 (10 sec)
AUKUS represents, for Australia, not just a long-term investment in nuclear-powered submarines, but a long-term investment in its alliance with the United States of America. 24

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:07:06-00:07:28 (22 sec)
This is a decades-long -- maybe a century-long commitment. And it reinforces the fundamental view, we believe, in Canberra that the United States and Australia, standing shoulder to shoulder for the purposes of safeguarding peace and stability -- not to provoke, not to go try to fight wars, but rather to deter conflict and to promote peace and stability -- that Australia is stepping up to make that bet. 25

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:07:28-00:07:39 (11 sec)
So, we have, in fact, the opposite of concerns about the orientation of Australia right now. We think today is going to be a reflection and celebration of the deep investment our two countries are making in one another for the long term. 26

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:07:39-00:07:46 (7 sec)
And oftentimes, when we talk about the long term, we talk about the next several years. In this case, we're talking about the next several decades. 27

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:07:46-00:08:03 (18 sec)
Then, with respect to the PRC: In my opening comments, I made the fundamental point that President Biden is going make today, which is that the United States has played a historic role over decades in the Indo-Pacific to help ensure peace and stability, to ensure that there would not be the repeat of major-power conflict that we saw in decades past. 28

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:08:03-00:08:21 (18 sec)
That was not an inevitability. That was not a foregone conclusion. That was the result of the United States helping to build and safeguard an operating system that has worked to the benefit of all countries, including ASEAN, the Pacific Islands and, yes, the PRC. 29

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:08:21-00:08:40 (19 sec)
And so, AUKUS represents a look forward coming off of that look backward, meaning that continuing to invest in these kinds of capabilities over the coming decades will help us continue to play that role alongside key allies and partners that we have played for the last several decades. 30

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:08:40-00:08:56 (16 sec)
That's the message he's going to communicate today. It's not directed at any one country. It is an affirmative message and agenda to all the countries in the region and, frankly, to the wider world as well. 31

Question

Unknown
00:08:56-00:09:13 (17 sec)
I have a follow-up on that, Jake. I have a follow-up on that. And we've seen President Xi make more moves on the world stage. He's going to Russia again, calling Zelenskyy, getting involved in Saudi Arabia and Iran. How are you guys interpreting his moves? And also, how would you define the U.S.-China relationship right now? 32

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:09:13-00:09:42 (29 sec)
So, when it comes to the report on President Xi potentially calling President Zelenskyy, we have been encouraging President Xi to reach out to President Zelenskyy because we believe that the PRC and President Xi himself should hear directly the Ukrainian perspective and not just the Russian perspective on this. So, we have, in fact, advocated to Beijing that that connection take place; we've done so publicly, and we've done so privately to the PRC. 33

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:09:42-00:10:09 (27 sec)
We have spoken with our Ukrainian counterparts. Today, I saw the news accounts. They have not yet actually gotten any confirmation that there will be a telephone call or a video conference. We hope there will be. That would be a good thing because it would potentially bring more balance and perspective to the way that the PRC is approaching this. And we hope it would continue to dissuade them from choosing to provide lethal assistance to Russia, which is obviously something that we have warned about. 34

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:10:09-00:10:28 (19 sec)
With respect to the recent understanding that was reached between Iran and Saudi Arabia and Beijing, as John Kirby said on Friday, this is something that we think is a positive, insofar as it promotes a goal the United States has been promoting in the region, which is de-escalation, a reduction in tensions. That's a good thing. 35

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:10:28-00:10:53 (25 sec)
And we were in close touch with Saudi Arabia as they were approaching and engaging in those talks. And they were keeping us apprised of their progress along the way. So, from our perspective, even as we put a lot of muscle into -- diplomatic muscle into trying to help promote de-escalation, as with the Yemen truce, having other countries like China promote de-escalation is not fundamentally averse to U.S. interests. Frankly, it's, in a way, rowing in the same direction. 36

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:10:53-00:11:03 (10 sec)
And we -- we're not in a position, of course, to be a mediator between Saudi Arabia and Iran, given our relationship with those two countries. We never have been and we aren't today in such a position. 37

Jake Sullivan

Very Negative
00:11:03-00:11:33 (31 sec)
In terms of the U.S.-China relationship, I would just say that President Biden laid out his vision for this following his meeting with President Xi in Bali. It's a relationship where we believe there is competition and we welcome that competition, but there is no need for conflict. There is no need for confrontation. There is no need for a new Cold War. And we will look to work with China in areas where it's in our mutual interest and the wider world's interest to do so. 38

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:11:33-00:11:49 (16 sec)
That fundamental set of premises and propositions that President Biden laid out in Bali remain operative for us today. And, you know, it's remains to be seen whether Beijing is prepared to continue down the course that our two leaders said then, but we think that would be in everyone's best interest. 39

Question

Positive
00:11:49-00:12:21 (31 sec)
I mean, you talk about "competition not conflict" over and over again, but there's been a lot of rhetoric in both China and the U.S. in recent months that -- that, kind of, looks in the direction of conflict. There's been a lot of different tension points in recent months. And I'm wondering, first of all: Are you concerned that this big new military agreement announcement today possibly adds to that? And secondly, what is the administration doing at this point to get back to the competition conversation? And are you concerned about, especially as it comes to U.S., the increased hawkish rhetoric about China? 40

Jake Sullivan

Somewhat Positive
00:12:21-00:12:38 (17 sec)
Just in terms of the announcement today, we have been transparent, predictable, clear, principled in how we've approached AUKUS from the beginning. This is not an announcement we're springing all of the sudden out of nowhere at this moment. This is an announcement that has been literally 18 months or 17 months and 29 days in the making. 41

Jake Sullivan

Positive
00:12:38-00:12:53 (15 sec)
And we have, in fact, consulted closely with allies and partners and countries throughout the Indo-Pacific on it, and we have directly engaged with China to explain to them what AUKUS is and what it is not. 42

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:12:53-00:13:08 (14 sec)
So, we feel very comfortable with the way that we have approached the AUKUS partnership, because we think it is actually a model for how a country can be transparent and predictable in trying to contribute to peace and security and to safeguard that peace and security in the Indo-Pacific. 43

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:13:08-00:13:20 (12 sec)
In terms of the rhetoric, a lot of the rhetoric you're referring to has come from voices, of course, not within the U.S. administration. That is obviously a part of being in a democracy. 44

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:13:20-00:13:32 (13 sec)
President Biden sets the terms of this relationship, but he sets the tone for this relationship for the U.S. government. And you've heard him speak directly to it in a clear and consistent and principled way, and we'll continue to do that. 45

Question

Unknown
00:13:32-00:13:37 (4 sec)
When do you expect that President Biden will speak to President Xi again? 46

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:13:37-00:13:55 (18 sec)
So, we have said that when the National People's Congress comes to a close, as it now has, and Chinese leadership returns to Beijing and then all of these new officials take their new seats -- because, of course, you now have a new set of figures in substantial leadership positions -- we would expect President Biden and President Xi to have a conversation. 47

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:13:55-00:14:14 (19 sec)
So, at some point in the coming period -- I can't give you a date, because there's no date set -- but President Biden has indicated his willingness to have a telephone conversation with President Xi once they're back and in stride coming off of the National People's Congress. 48

Question

Unknown
00:14:14-00:14:18 (4 sec)
Jake, is there a gap in communications with China related to military affairs? 49

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Negative
00:14:18-00:14:36 (18 sec)
Well, we don't have the kind of stable, steady, predictable, uninterrupted military-to-military communications channels that we think would be responsible and most effective for ensuring that there is no miscalculation, no accident, no mistake, no possibility for unintended escalation. We would like to see that. 50

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:14:36-00:14:50 (14 sec)
But we do have plenty of channels to engage in senior levels with the PRC to be able to ensure that we're communicating each other's understanding, intentions, priorities, and that we're reaching a decent understanding with one another. 51

Question

Unknown
00:14:50-00:15:03 (13 sec)
And just to clarify, you said you -- the U.S. has spoken to China recently about the AUKUS deal or was this way back in 2021 when it was first announced? I'm just trying to get a sense of it -- if you all have speak to them -- 52

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:15:03-00:15:05 (3 sec)
We've spoken with them along the way. 53

Question

Slightly Positive
00:15:05-00:15:05 ( sec)
Okay. 54

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:15:05-00:15:16 (11 sec)
The subject of AUKUS has been -- has featured in conversations between U.S. and China officials over the last 18 months. But we are specifically briefing them about this announcement so that they understand the terms of this. 55

Question

Somewhat Positive
00:15:16-00:15:21 (5 sec)
And do you feel like they understand -- they don't see it as an escalatory action in -- or -- 56

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:15:21-00:15:27 (6 sec)
Well, I can't speak to how they see it. All I can speak to is how we have approached the issue, how we have been transparent and clear and straightforward -- 57

Question

Unknown
00:15:27-00:15:27 ( sec)
Jake? 58

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:15:27-00:15:28 (1 sec)
-- all along the way on the issue. 59

Question

Somewhat Positive
00:15:28-00:15:48 (19 sec)
Sorry. On President Xi's visit to Moscow and what you just laid out on the lethal aid, we haven't heard much from the administration on this since the Munich Security Conference. Do you think calling them out publicly then sort of sufficiently deterred them? Or what's the status of what you're seeing on that right now? 60

Jake Sullivan

Neutral
00:15:48-00:16:06 (19 sec)
I can't characterize that -- what their intentions are, what their decision-making process is. All I can tell you is that we have not yet seen the transfer of lethal assistance of the weapons from China to Russia for use on the battlefield in Ukraine, but it's something that we're vigilant about and continuing to watch carefully. 61

Jake Sullivan

Very Negative
00:16:06-00:16:18 (11 sec)
And as I personally said before, we think it would be a big mistake for China to do that because Russia is using those weapons to kill civilians and commit war crimes. And China should want nothing to do with that. 62

Question

Slightly Negative
00:16:18-00:16:21 (3 sec)
Are you worried that a Putin-Xi summit is raising that likelihood of them actually making that decision? 63

Jake Sullivan

Leans Positive
00:16:21-00:16:29 (8 sec)
It's something that we will watch for. Obviously, Russia has its own interests in trying to pull other countries into this conflict if it can, but our position is the same whether or not they meet. 64

Jake Sullivan

Somewhat Negative
00:16:29-00:16:37 (9 sec)
It would not be in China's interests, from our perspective, for them to supply weapons to Russia for use on the battlefield in Ukraine, but that's a sovereign decision China will have to make for itself. 65

Question

Somewhat Negative
00:16:37-00:16:51 (13 sec)
There were some reports out of Iran about a possible prisoner swap between the U.S. and Iran. The NSC has sort of shot down those reports, but I wonder if you'd give us an overall assessment of where that may stand at this point. 66

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:16:51-00:17:02 (11 sec)
There's no deal. And the last thing that we want to do is give false hope to families that have been waiting for a long time for their loved ones to come home. So, all we can do is be as straightforward as possible. And there is no deal at this time. 67

Jake Sullivan

Neutral
00:17:02-00:17:09 (7 sec)
We continue to engage the Iranians to try to get the unjustly detained Americans home as soon as humanly possible, but I just can't predict when that will be. 68

Question

Unknown
00:17:09-00:17:15 (6 sec)
Do you expect the global banking system to come up, particularly with Prime Minister Sunak, in his one-on-ones today? 69

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:17:15-00:17:34 (19 sec)
I'm not sure. I presume that President Biden will share with Prime Minister Sunak the steps that he has just taken. Prime Minister Sunak obviously is reading about them, probably watching them on -- on television. But he'll have the chance to share it in person, and -- and Prime Minister Sunak can share his perspective as well. 70

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:17:34-00:17:38 (4 sec)
But -- but President Biden feels confident about the steps that he's taken. 71

Question

Very Positive
00:17:38-00:17:48 (10 sec)
One more on NATO. You met with the Finnish President last week -- last -- last week, yes. What's the path forward for their NATO membership? And do you -- are you confident this can be secured by the summit this summer? 72

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Negative
00:17:48-00:18:01 (13 sec)
I believe there is no reason it can't be secured by the -- by the summit this summer for both Finland and for Sweden. And we will remain in close touch not just with the Finns and the Swedes, but with the Turks. 73

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:18:01-00:18:16 (15 sec)
I will be meeting with my Turkish counterpart, the Turkish national security advisor, tomorrow in Washington, and we'll have the chance to talk about this issue, as well as about 127 other issues that are, you know, relevant to the U.S.-Turkey relationship. 74

Question

Unknown
00:18:16-00:18:20 (4 sec)
Is he in Washington? Jake, is he in Washington? 75

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:18:20-00:18:22 (3 sec)
I don't know if he's there today, but I'm seeing him there tomorrow. 76

Question

Unknown
00:18:22-00:18:37 (15 sec)
Can we just get your reaction briefly to -- the North Korean submarine-launched ballistic missile tests, I guess, today -- today, our -- their time; yesterday, our time. Does it represent a new capability and what are the level of U.S. concerns here? 77

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:18:37-00:18:53 (16 sec)
The North Koreans first tested a submarine-launched missile capability in 2016. They've been refining it. They've been trying different iterations of it. Over the course of the past 24 hours, you've seen them announce the launch of two missiles out of a submarine. 78

Jake Sullivan

Somewhat Positive
00:18:53-00:19:08 (15 sec)
We're still studying it, making an assessment of what it means in terms of their capabilities. But, of course, we're not going to let any steps North Korea take deter us or constrain us from the actions that we feel are necessary to safeguard stability on the Korean Peninsula. 79

Question

Very Positive
00:19:08-00:19:26 (18 sec)
The Saudi government is starting its own airline or starting an airline, and they want to buy a bunch of Boeing jets. Is that something the U.S. government has been involved in? Are you part of those discussions? And do you think it would be a good thing for the U.S. economy if all -- all those jets were purchased? 80

Jake Sullivan

Positive
00:19:26-00:19:35 (8 sec)
I think it would be a very good thing if the Saudi airline purchased Boeing. But I'll leave it at that for now until they make an announcement. 81

Question

Positive
00:19:35-00:19:36 (1 sec)
Thanks, Jake. 82

Question

Somewhat Positive
00:19:36-00:19:36 (1 sec)
Thank you. 83

Question

Slightly Negative
00:19:36-00:19:52 (15 sec)
Can I ask -- Kevin McCarthy is going to meet the Taiwanese President in the U.S. instead of going to Taipei. Do you think this is a good idea and sort of prevents what we saw as a fallout when Speaker Pelosi -- then-Speaker Pelosi went to Taipei? 84

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:19:52-00:19:57 (5 sec)
I've seen reports of this, but I haven't seen anything officially announced, so I will reserve comment. 85

Question

Unknown
00:19:57-00:20:01 (4 sec)
He's confirmed it off the record that he -- he has those plans. 86

Jake Sullivan

Neutral
00:20:01-00:20:08 (7 sec)
So, I -- I will reserve comment until we hear from the Taiwan government -- or from the Taiwan authorities how they want to proceed. 87

Question

Positive
00:20:08-00:20:09 (1 sec)
Thanks, Jake. 88

Karine Jean-Pierre

Positive
00:20:09-00:20:12 (3 sec)
Thanks, Jake. 89

Karine Jean-Pierre

Positive
00:20:12-00:20:16 (4 sec)
All right, I just have one more thing at the top. My ears are -- my ears need to pop. Okay. 90

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:20:16-00:20:34 (18 sec)
Okay. So, since we're headed out to San Diego, I just wanted to say a couple of things that -- one of them is that we are -- we are closely monitoring the heavy rain and flooding in California, including the breach of the Pajaro River Levee, as the state prepares for the impacts of another atmospheric river over the next few days. 91

Karine Jean-Pierre

Leans Negative
00:20:34-00:20:42 (8 sec)
The President issued an emergency declaration for the state of California on Friday and spoke to -- spoke with Governor Newsom as well over the weekend. 92

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:20:42-00:20:51 (9 sec)
FEMA continues to coordinate with both California and Nevada as well to address these -- their needs. 93

Karine Jean-Pierre

Neutral
00:20:51-00:21:09 (18 sec)
FEMA has deployed Incident Management Assistance Teams to the California Emergency Operations Center and has established an incident support base in California to prepare and stage supplies. 94

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:21:09-00:21:21 (12 sec)
The Army Corps of Engineers has also been delivering sandbags to California, and Urban Search and Research -- sorry, Urban Search and Rescue teams remain on standby to support if needed. 95

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:21:21-00:21:33 (12 sec)
And we will continue to keep you all updated on these efforts. Just wanted to -- since we're headed out there, I wanted to give you all a little bit of what we've been doing over the last couple of days. 96

Karine Jean-Pierre

Neutral
00:21:33-00:21:37 (4 sec)
With that, Zeke, you want to kick us off? 97

Question

Very Positive
00:21:37-00:21:50 (14 sec)
Thanks, Karine. On the banking intervention taking over -- taken yesterday on the part of the administration, does the -- the President today said he wanted stronger rules -- strengthened rules on the banking system. What exactly is he proposing? 98

Question

Very Negative
00:21:50-00:22:06 (16 sec)
And does the need for that action last night prove that the 2008, 2009 reforms failed in their efforts to prevent the emergence of new too-big-to-fail banks, because these banks were deemed by the government to be too big to fail? 99

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Positive
00:22:06-00:22:26 (20 sec)
So, I'll say this: The President's economic team right now is focused. And you heard from him directly on destabilizing the financial -- on stabilizing, pardon me, the financial system and protecting depositors, including small businesses and workers while avoiding costs to taxpayers. 100

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:22:26-00:22:40 (14 sec)
And so, the Fed also took temporary actions to provide the market with certainty that banks have the ability to meet the needs of all of their -- all of their depositors. And the Treasury Department remains in close touch with regulators to work together on next steps. 101

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:22:40-00:22:54 (13 sec)
The President also said it is important for us to look into what -- exactly what happened, and so that's something that clearly the regulators and the State -- the Treasury is going to continue to do. 102

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:22:54-00:23:14 (20 sec)
As far as 2008, look, the President's -- the President said the actions that have been taken should -- should give Americans confidence. That's in- -- incredibly important. That's -- should be a message that was taken from the President this morning. And so, that is clearly important of the banking system so that they know the banking system is safe and their deposits will be there when they need -- when they need them. 103

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Negative
00:23:14-00:23:23 (9 sec)
Overall, the banking system is far more resilient and on better foundation than before the financial crisis. Again, this is not the two- -- this is not 2008. 104

Karine Jean-Pierre

Neutral
00:23:23-00:23:39 (16 sec)
The Obama admin- -- Obama-Biden administration put in place tough requirements to -- to ensure banks have more capital and sufficient liquid assets, depositors have more protection for their deposits, and regulators have the tools to supervise larger institution and deal with disruption. 105

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:23:39-00:23:59 (20 sec)
So, the Fed has taken, again, temporary actions to assure banks have the ability to meet the needs of all depositors. And like the President said, Congress and the banking regulators, like I said, should -- should strengthen the rules for -- for banks to protect American jobs and small businesses. 106

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:23:59-00:24:04 (6 sec)
And so, we're going to -- we also need to learn what else -- just kind of look into what else. 107

Question

Unknown
00:24:04-00:24:05 (1 sec)
What are those rules -- 108

Question

Unknown
00:24:05-00:24:09 (3 sec)
Republicans are saying this is a bailout. Is that -- how -- 109

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Negative
00:24:09-00:24:11 (2 sec)
No, this is not a bailout. 110

Question

Unknown
00:24:11-00:24:13 (2 sec)
-- would you respond to that? 111

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:24:13-00:24:23 (10 sec)
Again, this is not 2008 at all. The funds -- the funds are from fees on banks and not taxpayers. So this is very different than what we saw in 2008. 112

Question

Very Positive
00:24:23-00:24:29 (7 sec)
How do you prevent bankers at SVB from getting bonuses, potentially? And is that something that you're looking into preventing formally? 113

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:24:29-00:24:39 (9 sec)
So, we've seen those. We've certainly have -- we're looking into that, I can say. And that's something that -- clearly, we've seen the reports on that today. 114

Karine Jean-Pierre

Neutral
00:24:39-00:24:43 (4 sec)
There's a couple of things I want to add to that. Give me one second. 115

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Positive
00:24:43-00:24:58 (15 sec)
And so, again, he said this morning -- and I just repeated this a couple of times: We need to figure out the full -- the full accounting of what happened and why so that those responsible can be held accountable. So that's something that you heard from the President. 116

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:24:58-00:25:04 (5 sec)
And the management of these banks are already been -- or will be fired. So that's the second thing. 117

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:25:04-00:25:10 (7 sec)
And investors in the bank will not be protected and will take massive losses. 118

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Positive
00:25:10-00:25:21 (11 sec)
So -- so, I don't want to comment on enforcement. That's not something that we'll do from here. And so, just going to leave it there. But clearly, that is something that we're looking into. 119

Question

Very Positive
00:25:21-00:25:39 (17 sec)
And can you give a just general tick-tock of how all this went down this weekend? I mean, the President was in Delaware. Did he get -- was he briefed? Was there a sort of big decision meeting or anything like that you can share? 120

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:25:39-00:25:41 (3 sec)
Yeah, I can you a little bit of a timeline there. 121

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:25:41-00:25:53 (12 sec)
So, look, the President was briefed regularly by his Chief of Staff Jeff Zients and NEC Director Lael Brainard, starting Friday morning and over the weekend into Sunday evening, leading -- leading to his action to speak to the American people this morning. 122

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:25:53-00:26:02 (8 sec)
He was updated by Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, along with Zients and Lael Brainard, on Sunday afternoon. 123

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:26:02-00:26:12 (10 sec)
As you know, the President -- Biden has spoke, as I just mentioned at the top, with Governor Newsom on Saturday about efforts to address the situation. So he had that conversation on Saturday. 124

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:26:12-00:26:22 (11 sec)
And the President stayed in regular contact with other senior staff throughout the weekend, as is the case every day. And he's continue -- continuing paying close attention to what's occurring today after he made his announcement today. 125

Question

Unknown
00:26:22-00:26:23 (1 sec)
So given -- 126

Question

Unknown
00:26:23-00:26:24 (1 sec)
So the government -- 127

Question

Very Positive
00:26:24-00:26:32 (8 sec)
-- given the massive bill, how do you reassure taxpayers they aren't going to be on the hook for this money? And how do you keep the Americans' confidence in the banking system? 128

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:26:32-00:26:38 (6 sec)
So, first of all, the President speaking to this this morning, I think, is incredibly important, hearing from the President on this issue. 129

Karine Jean-Pierre

Leans Positive
00:26:38-00:26:57 (19 sec)
The FDIC is using the Deposit Insurance Fund, which is funded by fees not -- not on banks, not taxpayers. The DIF -- the Deposit Insurance Fund -- is more than enough to cover any Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank deposits that cannot be paid using funds from the banks or the sale of their assets. 130

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:26:57-00:27:22 (25 sec)
This means no matter what amount of DIF funding is needed to cover SVB and Signature deposits, it will not come from the taxpayer dollars. And so, that is something that we are -- we are making sure that the -- the American people understand -- again, giving them that confidence that this is not 2008. This is very different. 131

Question

Leans Positive
00:27:22-00:27:45 (23 sec)
But on that -- on that decision, with these two banks, the President has made an announcement that all deposits in the banks are going to be guaranteed and backed by the federal government. Is that setting a precedent going forward that that will be the guarantee if any other bank fails? Or at a certain point, does it go back to the $250,000 FDIC level? 132

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:27:45-00:28:02 (17 sec)
So, two things. On the -- on the precedent, look, I'm not going to -- I'm not going to comment on other institutions. We're just focusing on what we have. Today, our focus is, again, stabilizing the financial systems, protecting depositors, including small businesses and workers. Treasury and the bank regulators continue to monitor the broader system. 133

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:28:02-00:28:29 (27 sec)
And I know you're asking about the cap -- that 250K cap. So, just a couple of things there. You know, this weekend's actions were about, again, stabilizing the situation that we're currently seeing with these two banks. We -- there were multiple announcements yesterday, including a temporary, non [new] Fed program, which will help ensure banks have the ability to meet the needs of all their dep- -- depositors. And that will help prevent banks from getting a -- from getting into this situation. 134

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:28:29-00:28:32 (2 sec)
So, that's how we're seeing that piece as well. 135

Question

Negative
00:28:32-00:28:43 (11 sec)
But so, how do you then justify -- if you're insuring for Silicon Valley Bank, how do you justify if a Midwestern bank fails, then not doing the same for, you know, people who might have less money invested? 136

Question

Slightly Negative
00:28:43-00:28:55 (12 sec)
And then, also, how concerned are you guys that this will spread beyond just this one bank? With all the tech layoffs and all that, the tech sector is being hit really hard, is there concern this is going to spread broader than that? 137

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:28:55-00:29:07 (12 sec)
So, look, overall, you know, again, we're trying -- right now, the actions that we're take -- we're taking is to stabilize the financial system and protecting the depositors, including small businesses and workers. So that's what you're seeing -- that's what you're seeing from the actions today. 138

Karine Jean-Pierre

Leans Negative
00:29:07-00:29:24 (17 sec)
But overall, the banking system is far more resilient and on a better foundation than before the financial crisis, and I think that's important to remember. This is not 2008. And so, that's why the President took these actions. 139

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:29:24-00:29:34 (10 sec)
Again, this is not going to be on the taxpayers. This is the -- this is going to be part of the -- the insurance funds that the banks pay into. So, just want to make sure that we're keeping that clear. 140

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:29:34-00:29:38 (4 sec)
And so, the President, again, spoke to the American people to continue to give that confidence. 141

Question

Unknown
00:29:38-00:29:40 (2 sec)
Can I ask a non-bank question? 142

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Positive
00:29:40-00:29:40 (1 sec)
Sure. 143

Question

Somewhat Negative
00:29:40-00:29:46 (5 sec)
The event -- the gun reform event tomorrow. Could you talk a little bit about that? 144

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:29:46-00:29:53 (7 sec)
Yes, I have something for you here. So -- so we'll have more to share a little bit later today. 145

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:29:53-00:30:03 (10 sec)
The President will speak about his continued efforts to reduce gun violence devastating American communities like Monterey Park, where, as you all know, 11 people were killed and 9 others injured in January. 146

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:30:03-00:30:13 (10 sec)
And, you know, too many lives are -- have been -- have been taken by gun violence. There are too many empty chairs at the kitchen table that we have see- -- that we -- you all reported over and over again. 147

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:30:13-00:30:30 (16 sec)
The President, as you know, has taken some actions -- executive actions to deal with this issue -- to deal with gun violence in America, including the historic piece of legislation that he signed that is on -- on gun violence. Something that we hadn't seen -- the first one in a generation -- in 30 years. 148

Karine Jean-Pierre

Leans Negative
00:30:30-00:30:40 (11 sec)
But he believes we need to do more. So, you'll hear him talk about that. You'll hear him call -- talk -- call on Congress to take action and not to stop where he stopped, that we need to continue. 149

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:30:40-00:31:07 (26 sec)
But again, the President took executive -- really, some historic executive actions in his first two years of the administration, and it is now far along -- it's taken too long for Congress to take -- to take action on -- on commonsense gun law reforms, including requiring background checks on all gun sales, banning -- banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, and eliminating immunity for gun manufacturers who knowingly put weapons of war on the streets. 150

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:31:07-00:31:19 (12 sec)
And so, we owe this to the lives that have been lost, the families who have lost their loved ones. Again, sitting around the kitchen table and missing that -- missing their loved one who was -- who taken by gun violence. 151

Question

Unknown
00:31:19-00:31:29 (10 sec)
You mentioned the flooding at the beginning. Is there any consideration or conversation about adapting this trip, since the President is out in California, to address it? Or is -- or is it too soon to think about that? 152

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:31:29-00:31:46 (17 sec)
So, there is no change to his trip. As I mentioned, he's spoken to Gavin Newsom, the governor -- I believe, on Friday -- as I mentioned at the top. And we are ready. The federal government is al- -- already assisting the state of California, and we're ready to do anything else that might be needed of us. So -- 153

Question

Positive
00:31:46-00:31:54 (8 sec)
Do any senior administration officials have exposure in the SVB Bank -- SVB -- like, debacle? Do they have large deposits in the bank that you're aware of? 154

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:31:54-00:31:56 (2 sec)
That -- that's -- I'm not aware of that. 155

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:31:56-00:31:57 (2 sec)
Anything else? 156

Question

Unknown
00:31:57-00:32:01 (4 sec)
Do you have any update on if and when the President will sign the COVID intel bill? 157

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:32:01-00:32:05 (4 sec)
Don't have anything -- don't have anything to share on the schedule on when he's going to be signing that. 158

Question

Unknown
00:32:05-00:32:08 (3 sec)
And the ESG veto -- any sense of when that's coming? 159

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Negative
00:32:08-00:32:12 (4 sec)
Don't have anything on that just yet. No timeline on when the President is going to sign -- going to -- 160

Question

Unknown
00:32:12-00:32:13 (1 sec)
And on SVB -- 161

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:32:13-00:32:14 (1 sec)
-- going to sign that. 162

Question

Leans Positive
00:32:14-00:32:21 (7 sec)
-- can you say if the President reached out to any outside experts or Barney Frank or others over the weekend to talk about all this? 163

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:32:21-00:32:32 (11 sec)
So, when I spoke to him earlier today, he did said that -- he did say that he spoke to economists. He clearly spoke to his senior staff, stayed in touch with the Treasury Secretary and his NEC director. 164

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:32:32-00:32:42 (9 sec)
So, he was fully engaged in this over the weekend and really is going to continue to stay very zeroed in and focused on this. 165

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:32:42-00:32:51 (9 sec)
He understands how important this is for the American people, but he did have outside conversations with economists. That's something that he shared he wanted all of you to know as well. 166

Question

Slightly Positive
00:32:51-00:32:53 (2 sec)
Can you share the economists that he spoke with? 167

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:32:53-00:32:54 (1 sec)
I -- I didn't -- I don't have names to share. 168

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:32:54-00:33:18 (24 sec)
But -- but, again, this is -- the reason I'm sharing this is he wanted -- I want you to know that he was fully engaged this weekend, since Friday morning, very much in touch with his senior staff, many -- well, very much in touch with the Treasury Secretary and -- and also just making sure that, again, taxpayers are not fitting the bill for this, that we came up with a plan to make sure that -- you know, that these banks are held accountable. 169

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:33:18-00:33:25 (7 sec)
And, look, we have to -- we have to look into exactly what happened. But in the meantime, the -- the banks are going to be held accountable. 170

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:33:25-00:33:39 (14 sec)
There's funds that have been put into place because of 2008, because what -- of what the Biden -- Biden -- Obama-Biden administration was able to do. This is -- again, this is not 2008, because of the actions that that administration took. And so, we're just going to move forward with that. 171

Question

Positive
00:33:39-00:33:57 (18 sec)
And just to circle back on Zeke's first question, can you point to any specific new regulations that -- that the President would be looking at? Or is he looking at specifically walking back the rollback of Dodd-Frank that we saw? Or just any specifics you could offer would be helpful or a timeline for when we might know more specifics. 172

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:33:57-00:34:08 (11 sec)
So, as you know, as I was stating earlier, after the 2008 financial crisis, the Obama-Biden administration put into place tough requirements on banks to make sure that the crisis would not happen again. 173

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:34:08-00:34:27 (18 sec)
But, unfortunately, as you all know, in 2008 [2018], the last administration rolled back some of those tough requirements. And so, as you saw this morning and you heard from the President, he called on both Congress and bank regulators to strengthen the rules to make it less likely that this kind of bank failure can happen again, to protect American jobs, small businesses. 174

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Positive
00:34:27-00:34:35 (8 sec)
So, we're going to actively have those conversations, work on this, and have conversations with experts and regulators. 175

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:34:35-00:34:47 (13 sec)
We need to review what happened exactly to further determine what the changes are needed to make it less likely to happen again. But we have to get a -- we have to get an accounting of exactly what happened so we can know how to move forward. 176

Question

Unknown
00:34:47-00:34:49 (2 sec)
And how long do you think it will take to review it? 177

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Positive
00:34:49-00:35:01 (12 sec)
I don't have a timeline on this. Just know that the President and his team is -- is -- this is a priority for them. And we're certainly going to continue to look into what exactly happened and how do we -- how do we respond and work with Congress on this as well. 178

Question

Unknown
00:35:01-00:35:04 (3 sec)
There's a couple of fundraisers on this trip. What should we read into -- 179

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:35:04-00:35:04 ( sec)
A couple of what? 180

Question

Unknown
00:35:04-00:35:05 (1 sec)
Fundraisers on the trip. 181

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:35:05-00:35:06 ( sec)
Oh. 182

Question

Unknown
00:35:06-00:35:07 (1 sec)
What should we read into that about -- 183

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:35:07-00:35:12 (5 sec)
I would refer you to the -- to the DNC on any fundraisers that the President will be doing on this trip. 184

Question

Unknown
00:35:12-00:35:14 (2 sec)
And then, why is Natalie Biden on the trip? 185

Karine Jean-Pierre

Positive
00:35:14-00:35:23 (9 sec)
So, Natalie Biden is on -- as you know, the President's family tends to travel with him -- right? -- pretty often. So that's not uncommon. 186

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:35:23-00:35:28 (6 sec)
Natalie is on spring break. And so, she joined her -- she wanted to spend time with her Pop. So, she joined her Pop on this trip. 187

Question

Unknown
00:35:28-00:35:39 (10 sec)
Karine, on that question: When members of the President's family travel with him when he's on official business and they don't necessarily have a role, does the President or members of his family reimburse the federal government for their travel expenses? 188

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:35:39-00:35:52 (13 sec)
So, that's -- that's a good question. I would have to look into how it works for members of the President's family. I actually don't know. But I would look into that and get back to you. I actually don't know how that works. You might know better than I. I would have to look into that. 189

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:35:52-00:35:53 (1 sec)
Anything else? 190

Question

Somewhat Positive
00:35:53-00:35:54 (1 sec)
Thank you. 191

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:35:54-00:35:55 (1 sec)
All right. Okay. 192

Question

Positive
00:35:55-00:35:57 (1 sec)
Thanks, Karine. 193

Karine Jean-Pierre

Positive
00:35:57-00:36:00 (3 sec)
Thanks. 194