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Press Conference: Karine Jean-Pierre Holds a Press Briefing at The White House - September 5, 2023

  • Jake Sullivan
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  • Karine Jean-Pierre
    Person
  • Question
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Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:00:00-00:00:05 (6 sec)
Happy Tuesday. Good afternoon, everyone. 1

Question

Positive
00:00:05-00:00:07 (2 sec)
Good afternoon. 2

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:00:07-00:00:13 (6 sec)
So, before I turn things over to Jake, I have a couple of updates at the top, and then we'll get this going. 3

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:00:13-00:00:23 (10 sec)
So, this afternoon, President Biden will award the Medal of Honor, America's oldest and highest recognition for valor, to Captain Larry L. Taylor, United States Army. 4

Karine Jean-Pierre

Leans Negative
00:00:23-00:00:38 (15 sec)
On June 18, 1968, then First Lieutenant Taylor led a helicopter team in Vietnam that rescued a four-man Army patrol unit which had been surrounded by nearly 100 enemy forces. 5

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:00:38-00:00:50 (12 sec)
First Lieutenant Taylor and his wingmen braved intense groundfire for more than 30 minutes to provide aeri- -- aerial fire support until they were nearly out of ammunition. 6

Karine Jean-Pierre

Leans Negative
00:00:50-00:01:06 (16 sec)
With the enemy still closing in on the patrol, First Lieutenant Taylor courageously decided to extract the team of American soldiers on the ground using his two-man Cobra helicopter, a feat that had never been accomplished or even attempted. 7

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:01:06-00:01:19 (13 sec)
First Lieutenant Taylor landed his helicopter under heavy enemy fire and with complete disregard for his personal sta- -- safety. He successfully rescued the patrol team and carried them to a safe location. 8

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:01:19-00:01:34 (15 sec)
First Lieutenant Taylor's conspicuous gallantry, his found -- his profound concern for his fellow soldiers, and his actions, which went above and beyond the call of duty, are in keeping with the highest tradition of military service. 9

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:01:34-00:01:41 (7 sec)
In recognition of his service, he will be awarded the Medal of Honor here today at the White House this afternoon. 10

Karine Jean-Pierre

Neutral
00:01:41-00:01:51 (10 sec)
Now, as you all know, the President believes that education beyond high school should unlock doors to opportunity, not leave borrowers stranded with debt they cannot afford. 11

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:01:51-00:02:01 (11 sec)
That's why from day one, the Biden-Harris administration has been working to fix the broken student loan system, make college more affordable, and cancel loan debt for millions of borrowers. 12

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Negative
00:02:01-00:02:10 (9 sec)
In fact, to date, the Biden-Harris administration has canceled more than $117 billion in loan debt for 3.4 million borrowers. 13

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:02:10-00:02:30 (19 sec)
And earlier today, the Biden-Harris administration announced that more than 4 million student loan borrowers are enrolled in the administration's new income-driven repayment plan: the Saving on a Valuable Education -- or SAVE -- Plan. This includes those who were transitioned from the previous Revised Pay As You Earn -- or REPAYE -- Plan. 14

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:02:30-00:02:37 (7 sec)
SAVE is the most affordable repayment plan ever and will save millions of borrowers money on their monthly payments. 15

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:02:37-00:02:49 (11 sec)
Student borrowers can visit StudentAid.gov/SAVE to sign up today. The application takes less than 10 minutes to fill out for most. 16

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:02:49-00:03:02 (13 sec)
And finally, an update on the President and the First Lady since she tested positive for COVID-19 last night. I can tell you that the First Lady is experiencing mild symptoms and will remain in Delaware for the week. 17

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:03:02-00:03:10 (8 sec)
President Biden tested negative last night for COVID-19 and tested negative again today. He's not experiencing any symptoms. 18

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:03:10-00:03:31 (21 sec)
As far as the steps that he is taking: Since the President was with the First Lady yesterday, he will be masking while indoors and around people in alignment with CDC guidance. And as -- as has been the practice in the past, the President will remove his mask when sufficiently distanced from others indoors and while outside as well. 19

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Positive
00:03:31-00:03:42 (11 sec)
The CDC guidelines recommend a combination of masking, testing, and monitoring for symptoms. The President is doing all of that in con- -- in close consultation with his physician. 20

Karine Jean-Pierre

Leans Positive
00:03:42-00:04:00 (18 sec)
There are currently no updates to the White House COVID-19 protocols. We continue to work closely with public health and medical professionals to monitor the virus. We're in our strongest position yet to fight COVID-19 and the viruses responsible for majority of fall and winter hospitalizations. 21

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Negative
00:04:00-00:04:22 (22 sec)
As we head into the fall, we have more tools and systems available today to help communities this fall and winter season, including safe, updated vaccines that will be available mid-September; widely available at-home COVID tests; widely available effective treatments, which can reduce the risk of severe illness hospitalizations and death. 22

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:04:22-00:04:34 (12 sec)
We will be encouraging, as I have said before, Americans to get their updated COVID-19 vaccine in addition to their annual flu shot and also RSV vaccines, as you all know. 23

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Positive
00:04:34-00:04:41 (8 sec)
With that -- thank you, Jake, for your patience -- Jake is going to talk about the President's travel to India and any other foreign policy questions that you may have. 24

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:04:41-00:04:45 (3 sec)
The podium is yours. 25

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:04:45-00:04:50 (5 sec)
Thank you, Karine. And thanks to all of you for giving me the opportunity to be here today. 26

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:04:50-00:05:06 (16 sec)
And Karine mentioned my patience. I'm going to test your patience for a moment because I'd like to take a few minutes at the top just to set the scene for the President's upcoming trip to Delhi for the G20 and to Vietnam to elevate our partnership with Vietnam. 27

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:05:06-00:05:12 (6 sec)
On Thursday, the President will travel to New Delhi, India, to attend the G20 Leaders' Summit. 28

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:05:12-00:05:19 (7 sec)
On Friday, President Biden will participate in a bilateral meeting with Prime Minister Modi of the Republic of India. 29

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:05:19-00:05:25 (6 sec)
And on Saturday and Sunday, the President will participate in the official sessions of the G20 Summit. 30

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:05:25-00:05:36 (11 sec)
As the President heads to the G20, he is committed to working with emerging market partners to deliver big things together. That's what we believe the world will see in New Delhi this weekend. 31

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:05:36-00:05:47 (12 sec)
The United States' commitment to the G20 hasn't wavered, and we hope this G20 Summit will show that the world's major economies can work together even in challenging times. 32

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:05:47-00:06:06 (18 sec)
So, as we head into New Delhi, our focus is going to be on delivering for developing countries; making progress on key priorities for the American people, from climate to technology; and showing our commitment to the G20 as a forum that can actually, as I said before, deliver. 33

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:06:06-00:06:12 (6 sec)
And thanks to the leadership of Prime Minister Modi and India's presidency, we hope we'll be able to do all of those things. 34

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:06:12-00:06:24 (12 sec)
We're also looking forward to warmly welcoming the African Union as a permanent member of the G20 -- the newest permanent member. We believe that the African Union's voice will make the G20 stronger. 35

Jake Sullivan

Positive
00:06:24-00:06:31 (8 sec)
Let me say a few more words, stepping back, about what the United States is bringing to the table as we head into this summit. 36

Jake Sullivan

Positive
00:06:31-00:06:48 (17 sec)
Here at home, President Biden has worked to rebuild the American economy, as you've all heard him say, from the bottom up and the middle out by making smart investments in the industries of the future while tackling climate change and empowering workers. And we believe that those investments are paying off. 37

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:06:48-00:07:01 (13 sec)
We think countries around the world, too, can benefit from a similar type of approach and that we can help them as well by mobilizing investment to support them in tackling the challenges that they face. 38

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:07:01-00:07:13 (12 sec)
And that's one of our main focuses heading into the G20: delivering on an agenda of fundamentally reshaping and scaling up the multilateral development banks, especially the World Bank and the IMF. 39

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:07:13-00:07:33 (20 sec)
We know that these institutions are some of the most effective tools that we have for mobilizing transparent, high-quality investment into developing countries. And that's why the United States has championed the major effort that is currently underway to evolve these institutions so that they are up to the challenges of today and tomorrow. 40

Jake Sullivan

Somewhat Positive
00:07:33-00:07:48 (14 sec)
Just last month, President Biden asked Congress for additional funds that would have the impact of increasing World Bank financing by more than $25 billion. And we're working to make sure other partners follow our lead. 41

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:07:48-00:08:02 (14 sec)
And at the G20, we have been leading an effort that we hope will see the G20 endorse this level of ambition and deliver a broader vision of multilateral development banks that are better, bigger, and more effective. 42

Jake Sullivan

Neutral
00:08:02-00:08:17 (15 sec)
President Biden will also be calling on G20 members as leaders in the global economy to provide meaningful debt relief so that low- and middle-income countries can regain their footing after years of extreme stress. 43

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:08:17-00:08:34 (17 sec)
He'll be clear that the United States expects real progress on ongoing cases by the World Bank and IMF Annual Meetings in Marrakech next month. And he will be clear that we need all G20 members to be constructive and at the table with no exceptions. 44

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:08:34-00:08:50 (16 sec)
We'll also be making progress on other key priorities from climate, to health, to digital technology, including commitments with respect to a more inclusive digital transformation and a responsible path and approach to AI development. 45

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:08:50-00:09:00 (11 sec)
In addition, we'll spotlight the progress that we've been making on the Partnership for Global Infrastructure and Investment -- or what we call "PGI." We'll have some announcements that we're excited about. 46

Jake Sullivan

Very Negative
00:09:00-00:09:16 (16 sec)
Now, we know that there will be continued focus on how the G20 deals with Russia's illegal and ongoing war in Ukraine. The reality is that Russia's illegal war has had devastating social and economic consequences, and the poorest countries on the planet are bearing the brunt of that. 47

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:09:16-00:09:37 (21 sec)
As he has done before, President Biden will call for a just and durable peace, one founded in respect for international law, principles of the U.N. Charter, the precepts of territorial integrity and sovereignty. And he will continue to emphasize that the United States will support Ukraine for as long as it takes to redeem these principles. 48

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:09:37-00:09:51 (14 sec)
Last but not least -- and this is important -- you'll see the United States will make it clear that we remain committed to the G20 as a critical forum for all of the major economies of the world to come together for global problem-solving. 49

Jake Sullivan

Somewhat Negative
00:09:51-00:10:04 (12 sec)
At a moment when the international economy is suffering from historic and overlapping shocks, it's more important than ever that we have a workin- -- working forum with the world's largest economies to deliver meaningful outcomes. 50

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:10:04-00:10:10 (7 sec)
So, in a sign of that commitment, the United States is looking forward to hosting the G20 in 2026. 51

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:10:10-00:10:19 (9 sec)
Now, turning briefly to Vietnam. On September 10th, the President will travel to Vietnam to meet with the General Secretary and Vietnam's top leadership. 52

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:10:19-00:10:37 (17 sec)
Building on President Biden's string of diplomatic successes in the Indo-Pacific just this year, this visit is a remarkable step in the strengthening of our diplomatic ties, and it reflects the leading role that Vietnam will play in our growing network of partnerships in the Indo-Pacific as we look to the future. 53

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:10:37-00:10:52 (15 sec)
For decades, the U.S. and Vietnam have worked to overcome a painful shared legacy of the Vietnam War, working hand in hand to promote reconciliation, with our service members and veterans lighting the way -- work that is dear to the President's heart, particularly in light of his close friendship with Senator John McCain. 54

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:10:52-00:11:06 (15 sec)
As we survey common challenges on everything from the South China Sea to critical and emerging technologies, the United States and Vietnam will chart out a vision for facing the 21st century together with an elevated and energized partnership. 55

Jake Sullivan

Somewhat Positive
00:11:06-00:11:23 (16 sec)
And finally, Vice President Harris will be traveling -- is traveling, literally, as we speak -- to Jakarta, Indonesia, to attend the U.S.-ASEAN Summit and the East Asia Summit and to engage with leaders from across the Indo-Pacific from September 5th to September 7th. 56

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:11:23-00:11:35 (13 sec)
Her upcoming visit will be her fourth visit to the Indo-Pacific in two years and her third visit to Southeast Asia. Vice President Harris has met with more than three dozen presidents and prime ministers from the Indo-Pacific. 57

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:11:35-00:11:44 (8 sec)
And throughout her work, she has focused on strengthening alliances and partnerships, driving economic growth in the United States, and upholding international rules and norms. 58

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:11:44-00:12:00 (16 sec)
At both summits, the Vice President will underscore the United States' enduring commitment to the Indo-Pacific generally and to ASEAN centrality specifically. And we look forward to having her be able to report back to the President on those trips as the President embarks on his own trip to India and Vietnam. 59

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:12:00-00:12:08 (8 sec)
I told you that I was going to test your patience a bit. I think I made good on my promise. So, with that, I'd be happy to take your questions. 60

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:12:08-00:12:08 ( sec)
Yeah. 61

Question

Very Positive
00:12:08-00:12:22 (14 sec)
Given what we know about how COVID works -- I understand the President is negative now, but are you planning for any contingencies in case he does test positive in the coming days or during the trip? Could he attend any of these meetings virtually? Are you thinking ahead to that? 62

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:12:22-00:12:28 (6 sec)
I'll let Karine speak to COVID planning here at the White House. It's beyond my ken. 63

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:12:28-00:12:42 (15 sec)
But, of course, we have long experience now, from the early days of the administration, in managing for situations in which COVID plays a role in summits. And, you know, we've seen various leaders at various times participate virtually in events. 64

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:12:42-00:12:51 (8 sec)
But in terms of specific contingency planning here from the White House, Karine can speak to that. 65

Question

Very Negative
00:12:51-00:13:08 (17 sec)
And just one more. On Sunday, the President said he was disappointed that President Xi was not going to be attending the G20. But then he said, "I'm going to get to see him." What did he mean by that? Has something been scheduled here? 66

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:13:08-00:13:21 (13 sec)
Nothing has been scheduled. But the President has said before that he's looking forward to picking up the conversation that he had with President Xi in Bali last year, and he fully intends to do that in the months ahead. 67

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:13:21-00:13:21 ( sec)
Yeah. 68

Question

Very Positive
00:13:21-00:13:31 (10 sec)
Jake, thanks so much. Can you -- just following up on that point -- give us a sense of the timing? Do you think that that conversation might take place in the coming weeks, in the coming months? 69

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:13:31-00:13:33 (2 sec)
I can't give you a sense of timing today. 70

Question

Very Positive
00:13:33-00:13:51 (17 sec)
Okay. On North Korea, very quickly. There are obviously reports that Kim Jong Un could be poised to visit Russia. This comes as the White House has recently said arms negotiations between North Korea and Russia were, quote, "actively advancing." What is the latest assessment of the state of play between those two countries? 71

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:13:51-00:14:07 (16 sec)
Well, "actively advancing" captures it well. Our current analysis is that discussions between North Korea and Russia, with respect to North Korea providing military support to Russia for its war in Ukraine -- that those discussions are actively advancing. 72

Jake Sullivan

Somewhat Negative
00:14:07-00:14:16 (9 sec)
Most recently, we saw the defense minister of Rus- -- Russia, Sergei Shoigu, make a trip to Pyongyang, in essence to ask for weapons. 73

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:14:16-00:14:31 (14 sec)
And we also have information, as we have indicated publicly, that North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, has some expectation that those discussions will continue as we go forward -- including leader-level discussions, perhaps even in-person leader-level discussions. 74

Jake Sullivan

Positive
00:14:31-00:14:44 (14 sec)
Now, I can't get into all the details of what we know. But at the broad parameters, that is what we are seeing: ongoing discussions and discussions where we have information that the leadership of North Korea sees this as potentially leading to leader-level engagement. 75

Jake Sullivan

Leans Positive
00:14:44-00:15:10 (25 sec)
And I would just add that we have been discussing publicly the possibility of North Korea supplying weapons to Russia for quite some time. And the reason why that there -- there is such an intense effort on the part of Moscow to generate this kind of support from North Korea is that we have continued to squeeze North K- -- Russia's defense industrial base, and they are now going about looking to whatever source they can find for things like artillery ammunition. 76

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:15:10-00:15:12 (3 sec)
That's what we see going on now. And we will continue to call it out. 77

Jake Sullivan

Very Negative
00:15:12-00:15:19 (7 sec)
And we will continue to call on North Korea to abide by its public commitments not to supply weapons to Russia that will end up killing Ukrainians. 78

Question

Somewhat Negative
00:15:19-00:15:22 (3 sec)
And any indication they're listening to those very public warnings that you've been issuing? 79

Jake Sullivan

Very Negative
00:15:22-00:15:34 (12 sec)
Over time, we have not seen them actively supply large amounts of munitions or other military capacity to Russia for the war in Ukraine. I cannot predict to you what will happen at the end of this. 80

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:15:34-00:15:51 (18 sec)
I can only say that the discussions have been actively advancing and the Russians have imbued them with an increased intensity, as reflected in the fact that their defense minister -- their number-one guy in their defense establishment -- actually got on a plane and flew to Pyongyang to try to push this forward. 81

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:15:51-00:15:52 ( sec)
Yeah. 82

Question

Leans Positive
00:15:52-00:16:02 (11 sec)
Jake, just -- I wanted to talk to you about G20 for a second. But -- but just to follow up on North Korea, could we get a little bit more analysis of how you think this is benefiting the North Koreans or what they want out of this? 83

Question

Leans Positive
00:16:02-00:16:16 (14 sec)
Do you think that part of this has to do with them getting less than they -- they want from their traditional patron in Beijing? Do you think that the U.S. has any leverage, in terms of what it can do here -- in terms of either providing food aid to the North Koreans or ratcheting up sanctions? 84

Question

Unknown
00:16:16-00:16:18 (2 sec)
Where's the -- the room for movement there? 85

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:16:18-00:16:21 (3 sec)
So, I can't speculate on North Korea's motives. 86

Jake Sullivan

Very Negative
00:16:21-00:16:36 (15 sec)
What I can say is this: Providing weapons to Russia for use on the battlefield to attack grain silos and the heating infrastructure of major cities as we head into winter to try to conquer territory that belongs to another sovereign nation -- this is not going to reflect well on North Korea, and they will pay a price for this in the international community. 87

Jake Sullivan

Very Negative
00:16:36-00:17:08 (32 sec)
We have also imposed sanctions -- specific, targeted sanctions to try to disrupt any effort to use North Korea as a conduit or as a source for weapons going to Russia. We did so as recently as mid-August. And we have continued to convey privately as well as publicly to the North Koreans -- and asked allies and partners to do the same -- our view that they should abide by their publicly stated commitments that they're not going to provide these weapons. 88

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:17:08-00:17:15 (7 sec)
What has changed in their calculus is not something that I can speak to. That's in the mind of Kim Jong Un. And he obviously will be the ultimate decisionmaker. 89

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:17:15-00:17:29 (15 sec)
But we will continue to look for opportunities to dissuade the North Koreans from taking this step, to get others to do the same, and to report to the world what we are seeing in terms of the actively advancing discussions that are taking place between these two countries. 90

Question

Leans Negative
00:17:29-00:17:53 (24 sec)
And then, on G20, just cognizant of the fact that the State Department has blistering human rights reports out on both of the countries that Biden is going to -- India and Vietnam -- including passages about their restrictions on freedom of expression for the media, threats of violence, arrests, this sort of thing -- is that something that the U.S. journalists who are traveling with Biden should expect? And are you taking any actions to ensure their safety ahead of that trip? 91

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:17:53-00:18:17 (24 sec)
Well, first of all, the ability of the American press traveling with President Biden to be able to go to the G20 and cover the G20 in an unencumbered way is something that has been a serious priority for this White House, for me personally, as recently as just this morning. And we are putting our money where our mouth is in terms of making sure that American press will have all of the access that they need and are entitled to as members of the international press, as members of the White House press. 92

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:18:17-00:18:35 (18 sec)
Secondly, President Biden himself has spoken to questions related to democracy and human rights as recently as the state visit earlier this year. The United States, our position on these issues is clear. It is reflected in the statements of our president. It is, of course, reflected in the reports that you're referring to. 93

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:18:35-00:18:58 (23 sec)
And when it comes to the trip to Vietnam, we believe that we have a powerful opportunity to advance our partnership in a way that will deliver for the American people and will deliver broader security, stability, and prosperity in the Indo-Pacific. But we also always raise issues related to freedom of expression, freedom of religion, and other basic human rights that are at the core of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. This trip will be no exception to that. 94

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:18:58-00:18:58 ( sec)
Yeah. 95

Question

Very Positive
00:18:58-00:19:16 (17 sec)
Thanks, Jake. What does it say about the state of Russian supply lines that they're asking, of all people, the North Koreans for help? And is North Korea able to provide artillery and things you were talking about at a volume that can have any kind of meaningful impact on the conflict? 96

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:19:16-00:19:36 (21 sec)
We have asked our intelligence community that second question. It is a good question. Our visibility into both the question of quantity of stocks and then, of course, quality of stocks is somewhat constrained. But it's something that we will continue to look at carefully. 97

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:19:36-00:19:42 (6 sec)
I think there is an open question about how much materiel and what the quality of the materiel is that could be provided if it were to be provided. 98

Jake Sullivan

Very Negative
00:19:42-00:20:02 (20 sec)
And then I think it says a lot that Russia is having to turn to a country like North Korea to seek to bolster its defense capacity in a war that had expended -- expected would be over in a week; that in September of 2023, it is going to North Korea to get munitions to try to continue to grind out on the battlefield in Ukraine. 99

Question

Unknown
00:20:02-00:20:03 (1 sec)
And if I could -- 100

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:20:03-00:20:03 ( sec)
Yeah. 101

Question

Positive
00:20:03-00:20:13 (10 sec)
-- real quick, on the G20. My colleague asked the China question. But is the President scheduled to meet with Mohammed bin Salman or Erdoğan or any of these other leaders that we might be interested in while he's there? 102

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:20:13-00:20:18 (5 sec)
[Laughs] I don't know who -- I laugh because I don't know who fits on the list of who you might be interested in. 103

Question

Slightly Positive
00:20:18-00:20:20 (2 sec)
We're interested in everyone, but those are the two. [Laughter] 104

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:20:20-00:20:26 (5 sec)
It's like there are two categories: the ones you're not interested in and the ones you are interested in. 105

Question

Positive
00:20:26-00:20:31 (5 sec)
We're interested in all of them. I'm the State Department nerd. I'm interested in all of them. 106

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:20:31-00:20:31 ( sec)
Okay. 107

Question

Unknown
00:20:31-00:20:33 (2 sec)
However, those two specifically. 108

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:20:33-00:20:40 (7 sec)
All right. We don't have bilaterals scheduled with either of those two leaders at this time. I'm not going to speak to how the schedule will shape up over the course of the coming days. 109

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:20:40-00:21:01 (21 sec)
And as you know, there is a certain dynamic element to this, which is all of these leaders in a very confined space with time on the margins. So, some of the bilateral engagements, as you saw last year in Indonesia, will likely be announced at the last minute. And we will do our darndest to make sure that they are done in a way where the U.S. press has the ability to participate in them. 110

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:21:01-00:21:03 (1 sec)
Yeah. 111

Question

Somewhat Negative
00:21:03-00:21:13 (11 sec)
Thank you. The Bali Communiqué said that most members of the G20 condemned the war in Ukraine. What progress has been made in the last 10 months to get India and China on board with that position? 112

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:21:13-00:21:24 (10 sec)
Well, first of all, India signed on to the statement -- most members. It was, as I recall, Russia who was the main objector to the proposition that so many of the other members of the G20 signed on to. 113

Jake Sullivan

Very Negative
00:21:24-00:21:27 (4 sec)
I don't expect that Russia is going to flip its position on the Ukraine war this year. 114

Jake Sullivan

Leans Positive
00:21:27-00:21:41 (13 sec)
So, to get absolute consensus on a statement on Ukraine is challenging because you've got Russia seated at the table, albeit not at the leader level because Putin isn't going to be there. 115

Jake Sullivan

Very Negative
00:21:41-00:22:07 (26 sec)
But the fact that most members of the G20 -- as most members of the U.N. General Assembly -- continue to hold the position that Russia's war was illegal, in violation of the U.N. Charter, and that this war must end on terms consistent with the U.N. Charter -- that is the result of months of hard diplomacy by the United States and our partners, and it continues to reflect where international sentiment is on this issue. 116

Question

Positive
00:22:07-00:22:17 (10 sec)
And what assurances has the administration received from Congress that the U.S. will be able to continue funding Ukraine's defenses going forward? 117

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:22:17-00:22:28 (11 sec)
Well, we are working closely with the Congress, as you know, right now, on a supplemental funding package that the President has submitted seeking funding through the end of the year. 118

Jake Sullivan

Somewhat Positive
00:22:28-00:22:38 (9 sec)
We've been working with both the Senate and the House. We've had constructive conversations on a bipartisan basis in both chambers. We believe we will be able to secure the necessary funding as we go forward. 119

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:22:38-00:22:54 (16 sec)
I'm not going to speak to assurances per se, but the conversations have been constructive, they've been positive, they've been substantive. And -- and we anticipate being able to work our way through to a sound package so that Ukraine can get what it needs. 120

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:22:54-00:22:54 ( sec)
Yeah. 121

Question

Very Positive
00:22:54-00:23:13 (19 sec)
Thanks, Jake. On World Bank reforms. On the one hand, you've talked about it not being about a specific country, that it's not about China. On another hand, though, you have said that you need an alternative to the, quote, "coercive and unsustainable lending through the Belt and Road Initiative." 122

Question

Unknown
00:23:13-00:23:17 (4 sec)
So, I -- I mean, how can it be about China and not be about China at the same time? 123

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:23:17-00:23:25 (8 sec)
Well, we believe that there should be high-standard, noncoercive lending options available to low- and middle-income countries. That's a fact. 124

Jake Sullivan

Somewhat Negative
00:23:25-00:23:49 (23 sec)
It's also a fact that World Bank reform is not about China, in no small part because China is a shareholder in the World Bank. So, growing the size, relevance, capacity of the World Bank to deliver for low- and middle-income countries is not against China. It's for the entire international community, all of the shareholders of the World Bank -- China being one of them. 125

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:23:49-00:24:00 (11 sec)
And we believe that just as the United States would benefit from a more stable, more capable set of low- and middle-income countries being able to deal with their own problems with help from the World Bank and the IMF, China would benefit from that too. 126

Question

Somewhat Positive
00:24:00-00:24:06 (6 sec)
But there is -- there is at least a part of it that is focused on China -- on those coercive practices, on those reforms? 127

Jake Sullivan

Very Negative
00:24:06-00:24:30 (25 sec)
This is an affirmative agenda. It is an agenda about providing high standards -- transparent, sustainable, resilient funding streams to countries that cut through the red tape and give not just the poorest countries in the world, but middle-income countries who are dealing with the stresses of climate and COVID and migration and -- and the war in Ukraine access to capital that they can actually take advantage of and put to work. 128

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:24:30-00:24:46 (16 sec)
That's not against anybody. That is not a negative agenda. That is an affirmative agenda, a positive agenda, and one that's been embraced not just by the United States, not just by our closest allies, but by a very wide range and diverse set of countries. And we believe it will be embraced by the G20 as a whole when we go to New Delhi. 129

Question

Unknown
00:24:46-00:25:05 (19 sec)
And if I may, just finally, you mentioned China being the third-largest shareholder. How does it impact that Xi Jinping won't be at the table when you're asking for various reforms? Does it -- does it change the pitch at all or how does -- how does that -- how does that change with them not being there? 130

Jake Sullivan

Positive
00:25:05-00:25:25 (20 sec)
It won't change our pitch. And -- and, you know, our pitch has been consistent working into the summit. President Biden will reinforce it. China will have representatives at the table, al- -- albeit not represented at the leader level. But the United States is going to put forward the same straightforward, in our view, clear-cut case for why this is so important. 131

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:25:25-00:25:35 (10 sec)
And more importantly, we'll also put on the table the fact that we are asking the Congress for financing to be able to make sure that the United States is not just talking the talk, but we're actually walking the walk. 132

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:25:35-00:25:36 ( sec)
Yeah. 133

Question

Slightly Negative
00:25:36-00:25:51 (15 sec)
Thank you, Jake. Two on the Saudi announcement today, and then one on China. On the Saudi announcement to extend the supply of oil curbs, can you talk to us about what that means to you geopolitically, how serious it is for the global oil market? We saw crude go above $90 a barrel today. 134

Question

Positive
00:25:51-00:25:59 (8 sec)
And then separately, does that up the ante for meeting with the Saudis at fora like the G20 where you want to do big things with [inaudible] as you mentioned? 135

Jake Sullivan

Very Negative
00:25:59-00:26:14 (15 sec)
So, on the first question, I'll leave it to others to speak to the specific oil market impacts. I would point out that what was announced today was a continuation of an existing policy, not a new set of cuts -- just a continuation of those cuts for three months as opposed to for one month. 136

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:26:14-00:26:36 (21 sec)
So, as far as I'm concerned, the most important thing that the President is focused on is just trying to do everything within his toolkit to be able to get lower prices for consumers at the gas pump in the United States. It's really the price of a gallon of gas for the American consumer, not the -- the question of which country is doing what, here or there, that is going to be his ultimate metric for whether we're succeeding or not. 137

Jake Sullivan

Somewhat Positive
00:26:36-00:26:48 (12 sec)
Secondly, as I said before, we don't currently have bilateral meetings scheduled at the G20 to announce with any leaders. I don't think that the announcement today is going to move us one way or another in terms of engaging with leaders at the G20. 138

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:26:48-00:26:54 (6 sec)
So, you know, we'll make our decisions on that -- on the basis of a far broader set of considerations than -- than any one policy. 139

Question

Positive
00:26:54-00:27:03 (9 sec)
Does that change the calculation at all though for communications in the future with the Saudis? I mean, does it make it more pressing to engage with them on this issue? 140

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:27:03-00:27:13 (10 sec)
We have, obviously, regular engagement with the Saudis at multiple levels -- with their energy minister, with their leadership -- and that will continue. And we will make sure that they understand where we stand, and we will come to understand where they stand as well. 141

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:27:13-00:27:27 (14 sec)
And the thing that we ultimately stand for is a stable, effective supply of energy to the global markets so that we can in fact deliver relief to consumers at the pump and also that we do this in a way that is consistent with the energy transition over time. 142

Question

Unknown
00:27:27-00:27:30 (2 sec)
Just one quick one on China -- 143

Question

Unknown
00:27:30-00:27:31 (1 sec)
In the back, Jake? 144

Question

Very Negative
00:27:31-00:27:50 (19 sec)
-- as my Bloomberg colleagues reported that Huawei has reached a breakthrough with its new smartphone and shows it's using the most advanced chips produced by Chinese chipmaker SMIC. I'm wondering how concerned you are about this development. And does it prove that the U.S. export controls are failing or that they're violating those export controls? 145

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:27:50-00:27:58 (7 sec)
I'm going to withhold comment on the particular chip in question until we get more information about precisely its character and composition. 146

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:27:58-00:28:21 (23 sec)
And for my -- from my perspective though, what it tells us, regardless, is that the United States should continue on its course of a "small yard, high fence" set of technology restrictions focused narrowly on national security concerns, not on the broader question of commercial decoupling. That is where our emphasis has been. That's where it's going to continue, sort of, regardless of the outcome. 147

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:28:21-00:28:30 (9 sec)
But in terms of characterizing the chip in question, that's something that we need to gain more information from before we make any definitive comments on it. 148

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:28:30-00:28:30 ( sec)
Yeah. 149

Question

Somewhat Positive
00:28:30-00:28:40 (10 sec)
Jake, thank you. Do you see division between India and China affecting cooperation, especially with the climate issue in the summit, and ultimately affecting the -- perhaps the results that could be achieved from the summit? 150

Question

Somewhat Positive
00:28:40-00:28:58 (17 sec)
And second, if you allow me: Today, Secretary Blinken spoke to both the Israeli Prime Minister and the Palestinian President. Should we read into this as more than just a routine call and maybe a series of steps towards normalization between Israel and Saudi Arabia? And will the President meet with the Crown Prince at this summit? Thank you. 151

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:28:58-00:28:59 (2 sec)
I think I've answered your last question. 152

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:28:59-00:29:11 (12 sec)
With respect to Secretary Blinken's calls, I wouldn't describe them as "run of the mill" or "routine." He speaks with these leaders occasionally, but not every month. But it also does not portend any imminent breakthrough or action with respect to the question of normalization. 153

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:29:11-00:29:27 (15 sec)
It's an important moment for a check-in at a high level, and Secretary Blinken is well poised to do that, given his relationships with both men and the central role that he is playing in efforts to explore whether in fact a broader normalization is possible. 154

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:29:27-00:29:29 (3 sec)
But beyond that, I won't characterize the call. 155

Jake Sullivan

Neutral
00:29:29-00:29:40 (11 sec)
As far as the question of tensions between India and China affecting the summit: Really, that's up to China. If China wants to come in and play the role of spoiler, of course, that option is available to them. 156

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:29:40-00:30:09 (28 sec)
What I think that the chair, India, will encourage them to do, what we -- the United States -- and every other member -- virtually every other member in the G20 will do is encourage them to come in in a constructive way on climate, on multilateral development bank reform, on debt relief, on technology, and set aside the geopolitical questions and really focus on problem-solving and delivering for the developing countries. 157

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:30:09-00:30:09 ( sec)
Yeah. 158

Question

Slightly Positive
00:30:09-00:30:24 (15 sec)
Thank you. Thank you, Jake. I have two questions. Recently, North Korea and Kim Jong Un said that it had tested tactical nuclear weapons by launching missiles. How is the U.S. analyzing this? 159

Question

Slightly Positive
00:30:24-00:30:34 (10 sec)
Second question is: Defense Minister -- I mean Russia Defense Minister Shoigu said that the North Korea-Russia maritime joint military exercises are possible. How are you concerned about this? 160

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:30:34-00:30:50 (16 sec)
We're staying in close consultation with both South Korea and Japan on the question of North Korea's advancing nuclear and missile capabilities. I don't have a specific comment on their most recent characterization. They're prone to making a lot of statements of a lot of different flavors. 161

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:30:50-00:31:11 (21 sec)
We're just studying each of their individual tests and making determinations about their capabilities accordingly. And then we're responding to that through increasingly tight and interconnected trilateral cooperation, as most recently evidenced in the President's summit with President Yoon and Prime Minister Kishida at Camp David. 162

Jake Sullivan

Positive
00:31:11-00:31:22 (12 sec)
And then, with respect to the comments by -- by Shoigu on the -- the military exercises: As far as I'm concerned, Russia looking to do more military exercises with North Korea, that's their business if they should choose to do so. 163

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:31:22-00:31:44 (22 sec)
I think if you look at the broader pattern of activity across the Indo-Pacific -- the security cooperation; the exercises; the work together on trying to ensure a secure, open, and prosperous Indo-Pacific -- what the United States has done with a broad network of allies and partners, I believe, has enhanced the stability and security of that region. 164

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:31:44-00:32:02 (17 sec)
And the year 2023 has been a year of substantial progress in that regard, delivered by President Biden -- from our relationship with India to Southeast Asia, to Australia, to the Pacific Islands, and then, of course, to Korea and Japan. 165

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:32:02-00:32:13 (11 sec)
So we're quite hopeful about the progress we have made in enhancing our own deterrent capability, our own security and prosperity. And we'll let other countries and the relationships they're developing speak for themselves. 166

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:32:13-00:32:13 ( sec)
Yeah. 167

Question

Positive
00:32:13-00:32:21 (8 sec)
Thanks. Brett McGurk is in Riyadh, and so are Palestinian negotiators. Can you update us at all on Saudi-Israel-U.S. diplomacy talks? And then I have a quick follow-up. 168

Jake Sullivan

Leans Positive
00:32:21-00:32:34 (13 sec)
So, Brett's trip this time is focused on a set of broader regional issues. One of the main things that has brought him there, along with Barbara Leif, the Assistant Secretary of State of Near East Affairs, and Tim Lenderking, our Special Envoy for Yemen, is to talk about the war in Yemen. 169

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:32:34-00:32:52 (18 sec)
We are entering either our 17th or 18 month -- 18th month of a truce -- the longest period of peace in Yemen in years -- which has been delivered in part through painstaking U.S. diplomacy. We not only want to keep that going, we want to deepen it and get to a permanent peace in Yemen. And that's one of the main reasons that Brett is there. 170

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:32:52-00:32:56 (4 sec)
He'll also be meeting with the Crown Prince of Bahrain in advance of his trip here next week. 171

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:32:56-00:33:02 (6 sec)
And then, of course, he will speak to the Palestinians about the whole range of issues relative to the Israeli-Palestinian file. 172

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:33:02-00:33:15 (13 sec)
Normalization will be one of the topics on the agenda, but it's not the main thrust of this trip. And like I said before, with respect to the phone call Secretary Blinken made today, we don't expect any imminent announcements or breakthroughs in the period ahead. 173

Question

Very Positive
00:33:15-00:33:23 (7 sec)
Does the admin- -- just want to follow up -- does the administration support Palestinians' public demand, though, that they'll accept nothing less than statehood? 174

Jake Sullivan

Somewhat Positive
00:33:23-00:33:28 (5 sec)
I'm not going to negotiate from the podium on the question of normalization, how the various pieces fit together. 175

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:33:28-00:33:28 ( sec)
Yeah. 176

Question

Somewhat Negative
00:33:28-00:33:49 (20 sec)
Jake, it seems like every administration, when it gets into office, complains about the problems it inherits from the previous administration. But how do you defend this administration's role with issues like Russia, China, North Korea, Iran? It seems like, in all of those cases, our relationship is worse than it was before? 177

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:33:49-00:34:01 (12 sec)
Well, first of all, Russia decided to launch a massive land war in Ukraine. The United States has mobilized not just the West but a coalition of dozens of countries. And more than 140 countries have voted for a U.N. General Assembly resolution condemning what Russia did. 178

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:34:01-00:34:22 (21 sec)
If you look at the U.S. leadership in that regard, we have stopped Russia from being able to take over a sovereign state. We have ensured that Ukraine will continue as a viable, free, sovereign democracy out into the future, you know, in the support we have given to the brave and courageous Ukrainians out there on the frontlines. 179

Jake Sullivan

Unknown
00:34:22-00:34:31 (9 sec)
I think the story of how the U.S. has stood up to Russia and galvanized the world to do so is a significant achievement of President Biden and one that we expect to continue. 180

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:34:31-00:34:54 (23 sec)
With respect to China, I'm not sure I'd agree with your characterization of the previous administration. But I'm not interested in comparisons. We're taking our own approach on this, which is to ensure that we compete intensively to put the United States in the strongest position possible while, at the same time, managing that competition so that it doesn't tip over into conflict. We believe we are managing the competition effectively. 181

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:34:54-00:35:09 (15 sec)
And from the question of what we inherited to where we are today, if you look at the U.S. economy and you look at China's economy, if you look at the U.S.'s alliances and the strength that we have built up in the Indo-Pacific and beyond, we feel very good about the strategic position of the United States, in terms of the -- the unfolding competition. 182

Jake Sullivan

Somewhat Positive
00:35:09-00:35:30 (21 sec)
With respect to Iran, I would just point out that, under the administration before the previous guy, Iran's nuclear program was in a box. The last guy let it out of the box. We are now trying to manage the results of that decision. And we are doing so while deterring Iran from going for a nuclear weapon. And we have thus far been able to do that. It's something we remain vigilant about every day. 183

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:35:30-00:35:37 (7 sec)
And finally, with respect to North Korea, the previous administration believed that if it simply engaged in summit-level diplomacy, it could end North Korea's missile and nuclear program. 184

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:35:37-00:35:52 (15 sec)
By the time we took office, North Korea's missile and nuclear programs had accelerated dramatically. The most important breakthrough we had seen from them -- the first test of an intercontinental ballistic missile -- that didn't happen on Joe Biden's watch; that happened before he came to office. 185

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:35:52-00:36:09 (17 sec)
So, we are dealing with the inheritance not just of the last administration but multiple administrations on North Korea. And we are doing so in a way where we have drawn more closely together the U.S., Japan, and Korea in a historic summit that has strengthened our capacity to deter and defend the interests of the United States and our allies and partners going forward. 186

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:36:09-00:36:26 (17 sec)
So, if you look at the overall position of the United States as it relates to those four countries, as it relates to our broader alliances and partnerships, and as it relates to the underlying sources of national strength -- our manufacturing, our infrastructure, our technology -- all of this, we believe, we will leave better than we found it by the time President Biden exits this office. 187

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:36:26-00:36:26 ( sec)
Yeah. 188

Question

Very Positive
00:36:26-00:36:33 (6 sec)
Thanks, Jake. I wanted to return to the Ukraine supplemental. And you said that you believe that you'll be able to secure the necessary funding. 189

Question

Positive
00:36:33-00:36:44 (12 sec)
I was hoping you could talk a little bit about why you believe that and whether it's getting harder to -- to get those supplementals through Congress, and also why the administration doesn't do more to sell the American public on the need for those requests. 190

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:36:44-00:37:06 (22 sec)
So, you know, on the first question, our view is that the strong bipartisan support for Ukraine in the Congress -- in both the House and the Senate -- has been on evidence, has been on display, not just in the past votes for Ukraine funding but in the current public statements of critical members of both parties in really important positions in the Senate, as well as key chairs of committees in the House. 191

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:37:06-00:37:24 (17 sec)
And so, we believe that there is still -- while there are some dissonant voices -- a strong core, on a bipartisan basis, of support for ensuring that we continue to provide Ukraine with the support that it needs because it's fundamentally in America's national interest to do so. 192

Jake Sullivan

Leans Positive
00:37:24-00:37:34 (10 sec)
And with the question of -- quote, unquote -- "selling it," the President has made clear repeatedly since this conflict began what the stakes are for the American people: that letting Russia run roughshod over Ukraine would put Europe at risk. 193

Jake Sullivan

Positive
00:37:34-00:37:49 (15 sec)
And we know what happens when a marauding, aggressive, hostile power places the continent of Europe at military risk. It comes at much greater cost, not just in American treasure but in American lives later. And so, let's make the investments now to ensure we uphold the fundamental rules of the international order. 194

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:37:49-00:38:00 (11 sec)
The President has made that case repeatedly. We believe, if you actually look at where public attitudes are, that they have been surprisingly resilient, despite the constant assertion that they're -- the bottom is going to fall out from underneath them. 195

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:38:00-00:38:06 (7 sec)
And similarly, we believe support will hold up in the Congress for us to be able to continue to provide Ukraine with the support that it needs. 196

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:38:06-00:38:24 (17 sec)
But we don't take that for granted. That's something we need to go work at every day -- consult with members, ensure we're answering their questions, ensure accountability for every dollar that's spent, ensure that our allies and partners are stepping up and doing the burden-sharing so that they're carrying their fair share of the load. We're doing all of those things, too. 197

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:38:24-00:38:33 (9 sec)
And I think in a dynamic discussion with the Congress, we believe that we can secure a good funding package when all is said and done. 198

Question

Very Positive
00:38:33-00:38:37 (5 sec)
And you feel like support is still steady, rather than eroding, in terms of monetary support for Ukraine? 199

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:38:37-00:38:52 (15 sec)
What I will say is: We believe that there is still a strong base of bipartisan support in the Congress to pass a material package that Ukraine needs to be able to not just sustain its gains on the battlefield but also to ensure that those gains can be consolidated and not rolled back as we go forward. 200

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:38:52-00:38:53 ( sec)
Yeah. 201

Question

Very Positive
00:38:53-00:39:09 (16 sec)
Thanks, Jake. A member of your team said in recent days that the administration is actively negotiating with the Maduro regime in Venezuela about exchanging sanctions relief for concrete steps toward democratic elections. Do you believe that Maduro has any actual interest in democratic elections? 202

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:39:09-00:39:28 (19 sec)
Look, I'm not going to speak to promises, pledges, hopes for the future. The administration's position has been clear and consistent for a long time: We're prepared to engage in discussions about specific sanctions relief in return for concrete steps that lead us towards a free and fair election. 203

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:39:28-00:39:38 (10 sec)
So, our measurement is not about promises. It's not about what we get on the come; it is about getting clear, concrete benchmarks and steps along the way. 204

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:39:38-00:39:54 (17 sec)
And I'm not going to characterize any current diplomatic discussions in that regard, just to state that that is our North Star. We're going to judge by actions, not by words. And that's how we approach our sanctions relief policy -- not just with respect to Venezuela, but other countries as well. 205

Jake Sullivan

Slightly Positive
00:39:54-00:39:55 ( sec)
Yeah. 206

Question

Very Positive
00:39:55-00:40:12 (17 sec)
And just on Haiti, quickly. With the -- with the General Assembly coming up at the U.N., what kind of priori- -- priority of it -- is it -- pardon me -- for the administration to pass a resolution through the Security Council that would operationalize a multilateral force in Haiti? 207

Question

Very Positive
00:40:12-00:40:23 (12 sec)
And what kind of force do you want to see? Do you want it to have the ability to actually go out front, into the streets of Haiti and actually secure, you know, key -- key ports and bridges, et cetera? 208

Jake Sullivan

Very Positive
00:40:23-00:40:38 (15 sec)
What we're looking to do is to support a multinational force that is fundamentally a policing support mission, not a military mission, and one that is in support of the Haitian National Police, not taking over the sovereign policing capacities from the Haitian National Police. 209

Jake Sullivan

Positive