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Press Gaggle: Karine Jean-Pierre Holds a Press Briefing on Air Force One - November 14, 2023

  • Karine Jean-Pierre
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  • John Kirby
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  • Question
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Slightly Negative

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:00:00-00:00:10 (10 sec)
I got a couple of things at the top before I turn it over to the Admiral. Thank you. 1

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:00:10-00:00:47 (38 sec)
So, this morning, President Biden shared big news in his work to tackle climate change. Over the past two and a half years, President Biden has delivered on the most ambitious climate agenda in history, from signing into law the largest investment in climate action ever, to including more than $50 billion in climate resilience, to taking bold action to reduce climate pollution across every sector of the economy, to protecting more than 21 million acres of public lands and waters, to restoring the vital role of science and guiding the Biden-Harris administration's decision-making. 2

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:00:47-00:00:59 (12 sec)
As a result of the President's leadership and economic plan, energy jobs are on ri- -- on rise across the country and we're on track to cut carbon pollution in half by 2030. 3

Karine Jean-Pierre

Positive
00:00:59-00:01:13 (14 sec)
And as you heard from the President a short while ago, we're not stopping there. The Fifth -- the Fifth National Climate Assessment released today shows that not only is every region of a country already experiencing the impacts of climate change, we're also making progress. 4

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:01:13-00:01:33 (20 sec)
To keep building on that progress, the President announced more than $6 billion in investment to make communities across the country more resilient to the impacts of climate change, including by strengthening America's aging electric grid infrastructure, reducing flood risks to communities, supporting conservation efforts, and advancing environmental justice. 5

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:01:33-00:01:43 (10 sec)
Now turning over to the economy. Today's CPI report that came out this morning shows more progress bri- -- bringing down inflation while maintaining one of the strongest job markets in history. 6

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:01:43-00:01:47 (4 sec)
President Biden is delivering results for the American people. 7

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:01:47-00:01:56 (9 sec)
Inflation has fallen 65 percent since last summer. Core inflation is at the lowest level in more than two years. Wages are higher than before the pandemic. 8

Karine Jean-Pierre

Positive
00:01:56-00:02:06 (10 sec)
Gas prices are down by $1.65 from their peak after Putin's invasion of Ukraine, providing breathing room to families ahead of holiday travel. 9

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:02:06-00:02:14 (7 sec)
Grocery inflation is at its lowest level in over two years. Egg, milk prices are lower than they were a year ago. 10

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Negative
00:02:14-00:02:25 (11 sec)
President Biden will keep fighting to lower costs, from taking on Big Pharma to lower prescription drug costs, to investing in clean energy to lower energy bills, to cracking down on junk fees. 11

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:02:25-00:02:43 (19 sec)
Unfortunately, that stands in stark contrast to what congressional Republicans are doing, pushing trickle-down eco- -- wow, hold on, guys -- economics by slashing taxes for the wealthy and standing with Big Pharma, oi- -- Big Oil, and other special interests that raise costs for families. 12

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:02:43-00:03:19 (36 sec)
Finally, I wanted to highlight that last Friday, the Major Cities Chiefs Association published data on violent crime for the first nine months of 2023 and compared it to the same period in 2022. That data showed that violent crime, which fell in 2022, is continuing to fall in 2023. The total number of homicides in -- in the reporting jurisdictions dropped more than 10 percent. Rapes dropped 7.6 percent, aggravated assault dropped 3.4 percent, and robberies dropped 2.5 percent. 13

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:03:19-00:03:29 (10 sec)
The Biden-Harris administration's investment, including the $50 billion from the American Rescue Plan, that cities have used to improve public safety is working. 14

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:03:29-00:03:41 (12 sec)
But, of course, we have more work to do. And that is why the President has proposed more than 100,000 police officers that engage in community policing. The President urges Republicans to support his proposal. 15

Karine Jean-Pierre

Neutral
00:03:41-00:03:51 (10 sec)
With that, I have the Admiral joining me today to -- to speak to tomorrow's summit with Xi and anything else on APEC that you may want to ask and, of course, the Middle East conflict. 16

John Kirby

Positive
00:03:51-00:03:52 (1 sec)
Thanks, Karine. 17

John Kirby

Positive
00:03:52-00:04:07 (15 sec)
I know you all heard from Jake yesterday about the -- the meeting with President Xi and, of course, APEC. I won't be able to improve much upon what Jake said. I'll just tell you that going into APEC, I mean, the President really feels we got the wind at our back here. 18

John Kirby

Positive
00:04:07-00:04:14 (6 sec)
And with 21 countries, 60 percent of global economic output represented here in San Francisco, it's -- it's an exciting time. 19

John Kirby

Unknown
00:04:14-00:04:15 (2 sec)
And he'll be focusing, really, on three things. 20

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:04:15-00:04:21 (6 sec)
One, not only improve and increase American investment in the region, but the region's investment in the United States. 21

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:04:21-00:04:34 (12 sec)
Number two, lifting up and looking towards a vision for better international worker standards, cleaner environments, safer environments, collective bargaining, a chance for international workers to be able to compete on a level playing field. 22

John Kirby

Neutral
00:04:34-00:04:39 (5 sec)
And number three, building a more inclusive economy across the region. 23

John Kirby

Unknown
00:04:39-00:04:41 (2 sec)
Again, Jake covered all that yesterday. 24

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:04:41-00:04:59 (19 sec)
I do want to just give you some updates on the Middle East if you'll just bear with me here. Since the very early hours after October 7th, the President has been personally engaged throughout the region. There's just been a lot of coordination, daily touchpoints with a number of partners all run out of the NSC, led by Jake Sullivan. 25

John Kirby

Slightly Positive
00:04:59-00:05:08 (8 sec)
And he's -- the President has dispatched a number of senior officials to the region. Obviously, Secretary Blinken has made a couple of significant trips there. 26

John Kirby

Unknown
00:05:08-00:05:24 (16 sec)
But that's why I think you saw us announce earlier that the NSC Coordinator for the Middle East, Brett McGurk, is traveling to Europe and the Middle East this week. And he's leaving today. He's going to Belgium, Israel, the West Bank, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, and Jordan. 27

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:05:24-00:05:43 (19 sec)
Of course, the primary focus is going to be ensuring that we're freeing the hostages, that we're doing everything we can to get them released, including the Americans that are being held. But he's also going to be focusing on how we can contain this conflict and that we can prevent any further escalation as well as any effort by anybody to deepen the conflict. 28

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:05:43-00:05:53 (11 sec)
We also are obviously going to keep working -- and Brett will be doing this -- with our partners on the humanitarian assistance front to make sure that the aid is getting in as well as people getting out. 29

John Kirby

Slightly Negative
00:05:53-00:06:03 (9 sec)
I think you may have also noticed all -- I'll just draw your attention to it -- Treasury Department issued another round of sanctions against Hamas today. This is the third one since the attacks. 30

John Kirby

Unknown
00:06:03-00:06:05 (2 sec)
Together with our partners, we're going to be decisively 31

John Kirby

Very Negative
00:06:05-00:06:14 (9 sec)
moving to degrade Hamas's financial infrastructure, cut them off from outside funding, and block the new funding channels that they seek to finance their terrorism. 32

John Kirby

Positive
00:06:14-00:06:35 (20 sec)
Now, on the hospitals, I can confirm for you that we have information that Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad use some hospitals in the Gaza Strip, including Al-Shifa, and tunnels underneath them to conceal and to support their military operations and to hold hostages. 33

John Kirby

Slightly Negative
00:06:35-00:06:51 (16 sec)
Hamas and the Palestinian -- Palestinian Islamic Jihad -- PIJ -- members operate a command-and-control node from Al-Shifa in Gaza City. They have stored weapons there, and they're prepared to respond to an Israeli military operation against that facility. 34

John Kirby

Positive
00:06:51-00:07:10 (20 sec)
Now, to be clear, we do not support striking a hospital from the air, and we do not want to see a firefight in the hospital where innocent people, helpless people, sick people are simply trying to get the medical care that they deserve -- not to be caught in a crossfire. Hospitals and patients must be protected. 35

John Kirby

Very Negative
00:07:10-00:07:26 (16 sec)
And this just points out how challenging the military operation is, because Hamas has deeply embedded itself within the civilian population. Israel has now an added burden that they have to -- I'm sorry, they have an added burden, given the way that Hamas operates. 36

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:07:26-00:07:38 (13 sec)
But as we have been clear on multiple occasions, Hamas actions did not lessen Israel's responsibilities to protect civilians in Gaza. And this is something that we obviously are going to continue to have an active conversation with our counterparts about. 37

John Kirby

Somewhat Positive
00:07:38-00:07:57 (18 sec)
And then, just -- just to touch on some of the figures over the last 24 hours: Some 115 more trucks carrying humanitarian aid were able to enter Gaza. That brings the total now to around 1,100. Again, we know it's not enough. We know more must be done. We got to accelerate it. We got to increase it. But we're up over a thousand trucks now that have gotten in. 38

John Kirby

Positive
00:07:57-00:08:09 (13 sec)
And then since the 1st of November, we are now aware of more than 600 Americans and their family members who have been able to depart and -- and seek the support of our embassy team, our consular team on the ground in Egypt. 39

Question

Unknown
00:08:09-00:08:11 (2 sec)
Kirby, just on the -- on the -- 40

Question

Unknown
00:08:11-00:08:13 (2 sec)
Hostages -- on the hostages -- 41

Question

Very Positive
00:08:13-00:08:21 (8 sec)
Could I just -- on the hospitals, first of all, what evidence or support or sourcing do you have to support the claim that you just made about Hamas? 42

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:08:21-00:08:40 (20 sec)
Yeah, it comes from a variety of intelligence sourcing. I think you can understand that we're not going to be able to provide a whole lot of granular detail on that. We have to protect sources and methods, but we were able to downgrade some information to be able to provide it with -- for you today. But it comes from a variety of intelligence methods of our own -- of our own. 43

Question

Positive
00:08:40-00:08:52 (12 sec)
Does that change the idea of whether or not there should be a ceasefire at the hospital in order to get the patients out? I mean, does this change the calculation? Would you -- would the U.S. support a -- 44

John Kirby

Slightly Positive
00:08:52-00:08:52 ( sec)
Yeah, I think -- 45

Question

Unknown
00:08:52-00:08:54 (2 sec)
-- temporary ceasefire at this point? 46

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:08:54-00:09:01 (7 sec)
I want to be clear, when we're talking ceasefire versus pause, there's a difference. So, we don't support a ceasefire. We think that's going to benefit Hamas. 47

Question

Unknown
00:09:01-00:09:02 (1 sec)
[Inaudible] pause? 48

John Kirby

Positive
00:09:02-00:09:07 (5 sec)
But we do support these humanitarian pauses that the Israeli military put in place. 49

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:09:07-00:09:14 (6 sec)
Now some of them have gone up to seven hours a day, which is a good thing. It's allowing people to get out and to get to safety. 50

John Kirby

Neutral
00:09:14-00:09:28 (14 sec)
As I said in my topper, and you heard Jake talk about this yesterday, we don't support attacks on hospitals. We don't want innocent patients who are just trying to get needed medical care to be caught in the crossfire here. And this does point to the added burden that the Israeli Defense Force has. 51

John Kirby

Very Negative
00:09:28-00:09:47 (19 sec)
As I said in my opening statement, now have information that confirms that Hamas is using that particular hospital for a command-and-control node and probably storage of equipment, weapons up underneath that. This is -- this is -- that is a war crime. That -- that does make it much more difficult for the Israeli Defense Forces. 52

Question

Unknown
00:09:47-00:09:55 (8 sec)
On the hostages, it seems we're getting closer to a hostage deal. There seems to be indications and reports of that. Can you give us any information about how that's moving? 53

John Kirby

Positive
00:09:55-00:10:12 (17 sec)
All I can tell you is that we are in active discussions as we speak, right now, with our counterparts in the region. And one of the things that Brett will be doing when he goes over there is to continue to have that work, to continue -- to continue that work. So, it's an hour-by-hour discussion. 54

John Kirby

Leans Negative
00:10:12-00:10:19 (7 sec)
I think you can understand why I wouldn't get into too much detail about these active negotiations, lest I say something that -- that puts them in jeopardy. 55

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:10:19-00:10:29 (10 sec)
But as you heard the President talk about this earlier this morning, you know, we're -- we're confident that we're putting the energy and the effort into that, and we're going to keep -- we're going to keep at it. 56

Question

Unknown
00:10:29-00:10:38 (9 sec)
Is there anything to that Washington Post report about the possible exchange of around 70 civilian hostages in exchange for a five-day ceasefire? 57

John Kirby

Slightly Positive
00:10:38-00:10:41 (2 sec)
Yeah, I'm just not going to get into the details. 58

Question

Very Negative
00:10:41-00:10:57 (16 sec)
[Inaudible] on ICBC -- the ransomware attack on ICBC. First, did the U.S. give any sense of a warning to China about the vulnerability of that -- of that ransomware? And second, is that something that you would foresee coming up in the leaders' meeting tomorrow? 59

John Kirby

Leans Negative
00:10:57-00:11:04 (7 sec)
I -- I don't -- we're wa- -- aware of the attack and, certainly, we're monitoring that. I don't have a lot of information for you. 60

John Kirby

Neutral
00:11:04-00:11:14 (10 sec)
We -- you know, the Treasurer is in touch with the financial regulators and with the market itself, but I really don't have much more information on that. It's obviously something we're going to watch very closely. 61

John Kirby

Neutral
00:11:14-00:11:19 (4 sec)
And as for whether it'll come up tomorrow, I don't want to get ahead of the President and the discussion that he's going to have. 62

John Kirby

Unknown
00:11:19-00:11:22 (3 sec)
Believe me, the agenda will be a very full agenda with President Xi. 63

Question

Unknown
00:11:22-00:11:30 (8 sec)
Does the President have plans to talk to Netanyahu before APEC gets underway, before his focus shifts to the summit in San Francisco? 64

John Kirby

Unknown
00:11:30-00:11:35 (6 sec)
I'm not aware of any calls on his schedule with Prime Minister Netanyahu as we're speaking right now. 65

John Kirby

Unknown
00:11:35-00:11:45 (9 sec)
But he has maintained a constant communication with the Prime Minister, and I have every expectation that they'll be talking again, probably multiple times. I just don't -- I couldn't tell you exactly when that's going to happen. 66

Question

Slightly Positive
00:11:45-00:11:50 (6 sec)
And on the sanctions -- the Treasury sanctions on Hamas -- are you seeing any evidence that that's having any impact right now? 67

John Kirby

Somewhat Positive
00:11:50-00:12:17 (26 sec)
Well, I mean, sanctions sometimes take a little while before you can actually see the practical impacts, and we've done three rounds since the -- the attacks. And oftentimes, the effect just takes a little while. So, I couldn't tell you one way or another how much impact it's had so far. But eventually, these things -- they will certainly put a -- will certainly put at a disadvantage their ability to fund themselves, resource themselves, provide capabilities to their fighters. 68

John Kirby

Somewhat Positive
00:12:17-00:12:24 (7 sec)
We'll -- and, you know, this is the third round. We certainly aren't going to take off the table any additional sanctions. 69

Question

Very Positive
00:12:24-00:12:33 (9 sec)
In tomorrow's meeting with President Xi, China's Foreign Ministry says they'd like to see, quote, "concrete actions" in terms of U.S. support for Taiwanese -- 70

John Kirby

Unknown
00:12:33-00:12:35 (1 sec)
Who said that? 71

Question

Very Positive
00:12:35-00:12:51 (17 sec)
The Chinese Foreign Ministry said they'd like to see "concrete actions" in terms of U.S. support of the One China policy. Whereas, as we know, the U.S. would like to see Taiwanese citizens being able to exercise their right to vote freely and fairly. How do you square those two positions? 72

John Kirby

Somewhat Positive
00:12:51-00:12:59 (8 sec)
First of all, nothing has changed about our One China policy, and we have been crystal clear about that. We 73

John Kirby

Leans Negative
00:12:59-00:13:02 (3 sec)
obviously don't support independence for Taiwan. 74

John Kirby

Positive
00:13:02-00:13:08 (6 sec)
We certainly want to see Taiwan's democracy continue to flourish. 75

John Kirby

Somewhat Negative
00:13:08-00:13:18 (10 sec)
We don't -- don't want to see any cross-trade tensions that are solved unilaterally or upsetting the status quo in a unilateral way, certainly not by force. 76

John Kirby

Somewhat Negative
00:13:18-00:13:21 (3 sec)
So, there's no change to our One China policy. 77

Question

Neutral
00:13:21-00:13:33 (13 sec)
You said last week when asked about the President's schedule that the luggage isn't on the plane yet. You didn't want to -- you said last week when asked about the President's schedule for the conference that the luggage wasn't on the plane yet, so you didn't want to talk about it. 78

John Kirby

Unknown
00:13:33-00:13:33 ( sec)
[Laughs] 79

Question

Very Positive
00:13:33-00:13:40 (6 sec)
Well, we hope the luggage is on the plane. But I wanted to ask how fluid is the President's schedule given the budget -- 80

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:13:40-00:13:49 (10 sec)
The President is looking forward to a good week in San Francisco and to a very robust agenda at APEC. And -- and then I think I'll just leave it at that. 81

Question

Somewhat Negative
00:13:49-00:13:53 (3 sec)
So, there's no plans to possibly leave early, go back to Washington, or -- 82

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:13:53-00:13:58 (6 sec)
We're -- we're focused on having a good week in San Francisco. And -- and I have no updates to his schedule to talk about. 83

Question

Very Positive
00:13:58-00:14:07 (9 sec)
Related to Xi, what interests does China have in what's happening in the Middle East right now? And why has their approach been so different to the United States on that issue? 84

John Kirby

Somewhat Positive
00:14:07-00:14:20 (13 sec)
I'd have to point you to President Xi to speak to his views of what's going on in the Middle East. I won't speak for another foreign leader. And I certainly won't speak for their comments and -- and how they've reacted to what's going on in the Middle East. 85

John Kirby

Somewhat Positive
00:14:20-00:14:26 (6 sec)
All I can do is tell you what we're doing, and I just did that. And the President is going to stay focused on what's going on. 86

John Kirby

Slightly Negative
00:14:26-00:14:40 (13 sec)
I have no doubt, Trevor, that -- that the situation in the Middle East will come up in the context of the bilateral discussion with President Xi. President Biden will be eager to hear President Xi's perspectives on this. 87

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:14:40-00:15:03 (24 sec)
They have -- they have lines of communication in the region in some ways that we don't. And, certainly, we would -- we would welcome opportunities for -- if China was willing to be helpful in -- in making sure that Israel can get the support that it needs to defend itself and that we can get humanitarian assistance to those in need. 88

Question

Unknown
00:15:03-00:15:06 (3 sec)
And then also related to APEC -- 89

John Kirby

Somewhat Negative
00:15:06-00:15:11 (5 sec)
And we don't -- and that we -- there's not an escalation or deepening or widening of the conflict by any other actor in the region. 90

Question

Positive
00:15:11-00:15:23 (12 sec)
And then related to -- also related to APEC. What discussions do you expect the U.S. delegation to have with the Russian delegation that's on site? And -- and who is the senior-most member of that delegation? And how will you be engaging with them? 91

John Kirby

Unknown
00:15:23-00:15:38 (14 sec)
It's their Deputy Prime Minister, and I'm not -- I'm going to blank on the name. Their Deputy Prime Minister is representing them. And we look forward to having them as part of this larger economic framework and discussion. 92

Question

Very Positive
00:15:38-00:15:46 (9 sec)
Admiral -- Admiral, President Xi has met with President Putin. So, how is Russia and Ukraine going to come up in the talks between President Biden and President Xi? 93

John Kirby

Neutral
00:15:46-00:15:48 (2 sec)
I'm sorry, say that again. 94

Question

Leans Negative
00:15:48-00:15:58 (10 sec)
So, President Xi has met with President Putin and is keeping those lines open. So, how is the fight in the Ukraine going to come up between President Biden and President Xi? Like, what's going to be discussed there? 95

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:15:58-00:16:11 (13 sec)
Again, I don't want to get ahead of the conversation that hasn't happened yet. I do think that certainly they will want to talk about what's going on in Ukraine, and the President will make clear that we're going to continue to support Ukraine against Russia's aggression. 96

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:16:11-00:16:28 (18 sec)
And that -- and, again, China could play a role here in helping us support Ukraine but also to -- helping advance President Zelenskyy's vision of a -- of a just peace here for when -- for when the conflict is over. 97

John Kirby

Somewhat Negative
00:16:28-00:16:36 (7 sec)
But I won't speak for the Chinese and what -- what they will or won't say about that. But I have every expectation that the fighting in Ukraine will come up. 98

Question

Somewhat Positive
00:16:36-00:17:01 (25 sec)
Given so much attention given tomorrow to the President's meeting with President Xi, can you talk about the preparation and negotiations for the lead-up to tomorrow? Was it a smooth negotiation? Were there contentious points? What were some of the things that were talked about about the two leaders sitting down together? Like, give us a little bit of a sense of what we're going to see in the choreography tomorrow and how that came about. 99

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:17:01-00:17:17 (16 sec)
Well, look, I mean, anytime you do a meeting at the leader level, particularly between our two countries, you know, there's weeks and weeks of discussion about what's going to be on the agenda, what's not going to be on the agenda, how we want the -- the meeting to progress. 100

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:17:17-00:17:32 (15 sec)
And then, of course, it gets down to execution. Once these guys sit down at the table -- you saw in Bali, it went on for, like, three-plus hours. These are two leaders that know each other well, known each other a long, long time. They can be frank and forthright with one another. I fully expect that that will be the case. 101

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:17:32-00:17:53 (21 sec)
I'm not going to get into the back-and-forth between the two teams about -- about how the -- all the modalities came into place. But -- but I think -- look, I think the table has been set -- again, over the course of many weeks -- for what -- what we hope will be a very productive, candid, constructive conversation here. 102

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:17:53-00:18:03 (10 sec)
The President wants to make sure that we're handling this most consequential of bilateral relationships in the most responsible way forward. 103

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:18:03-00:18:34 (31 sec)
He means to compete with China. He's coming into this discussion, again, with the wind at his back, from an economic perspective. He thinks the United States is well-poised in that competition with China. He's not going to be afraid to -- to confront where confrontation is needed on issues where we don't see eye to eye with President Xi and the PRC. But we're also not going to be afraid, nor should we be afraid, as a confident nation, to engage in diplomacy on ways which we can cooperate with China -- on climate change, for instance, and clean energy technology. 104

John Kirby

Negative
00:18:34-00:18:43 (9 sec)
So, there's going to be an awful lot on the agenda. All of that was -- was worked out between the two teams and baked in, and -- and we're looking forward to seeing where it's going to go. 105

John Kirby

Unknown
00:18:43-00:18:43 ( sec)
[Crosstalk] 106

Question

Unknown
00:18:43-00:18:49 (6 sec)
Will there be -- are they going to wear matching outfits for the -- for the family --- for the family photo at the end? 107

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:18:49-00:18:50 ( sec)
What? 108

Question

Somewhat Negative
00:18:50-00:18:52 (3 sec)
I know. It's ridiculous. [Laughter] 109

Question

Unknown
00:18:52-00:18:53 (1 sec)
T-shirts. 110

Question

Slightly Positive
00:18:53-00:18:54 (1 sec)
Yeah, matching t-shirts. 111

Question

Very Negative
00:18:54-00:19:15 (21 sec)
So, there's a tradition at the end of APEC that the leaders wear some kind of matching outfits. But the last time it was held in the U.S., Obama -- it was in Hawaii, and Obama did not want to have everybody wear Hawaiian shirts because he thought it was kind of embarrassing. So, I guess there's a question about whether or not there's going to be matching outfits this year. I don't know. Are they all going to wear aviators? I don't know. 112

John Kirby

Slightly Positive
00:19:15-00:19:21 (6 sec)
Well, you got me there. I wasn't aware of that one. I'll -- I'll take that back -- 113

Question

Leans Negative
00:19:21-00:19:22 (1 sec)
I swear it's a thing. I swear. 114

John Kirby

Unknown
00:19:22-00:19:26 (3 sec)
-- and ask. I -- I take your word for it, but first I heard of that. 115

Question

Unknown
00:19:26-00:19:31 (6 sec)
Kirby, do you have any sense of whether President Biden will meet with the Taiwanese delegation that's attending APEC? 116

John Kirby

Leans Negative
00:19:31-00:19:47 (16 sec)
Other than President Xi, I don't have additional bilateral or even pull-aside discussions to speak to today. I mean, there'll be a lot of leaders here, and we'll see how things shake -- shape out. But the only one that I -- that I can speak to is the bilat with President Xi. 117

Question

Very Positive
00:19:47-00:19:57 (11 sec)
On Indonesia, the President was seeking something like a free trade agreement regarding critical minerals. He didn't get it yesterday. Why? And is that going to be part of IPEF? 118

John Kirby

Unknown
00:19:57-00:19:58 (1 sec)
Is that going to be what? 119

Question

Unknown
00:19:58-00:20:01 (2 sec)
Part of the IPEF [inaudible]. 120

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:20:01-00:20:13 (12 sec)
Again, I'm not going to get ahead of the agenda here for the next few days. I mean, we'll -- there's a robust set of discussions, including on progress on the pillars of IPEF. And we'll have more to say about that in -- in coming days. 121

John Kirby

Positive
00:20:13-00:20:30 (17 sec)
And as for critical minerals, there was a -- there was a good discussion with President Widodo about critical minerals and making -- making sure that -- that we can work collaboratively in the region to provide more resilient supply chains for raw materials like that. 122

John Kirby

Unknown
00:20:30-00:20:32 (2 sec)
So, I think that's about as far as I'll go. 123

Question

Unknown
00:20:32-00:20:42 (10 sec)
On the choreography of the meetings with President Xi, do we know it's going to work? Are they're going to have a handshake? Are they going to give statements? How long? And also can you tell us where it will happen? 124

John Kirby

Somewhat Positive
00:20:42-00:21:06 (24 sec)
Again, I'm not going to get into much of the modalities. I mean, there'll be a -- obviously a -- you know, a classic bilateral discussion between the two leaders. There'll be an expanded bilateral discussion with the two teams, but beyond that -- and then, you know, I think you'll get a chance to hear from the President directly after that. But beyond that, I'm -- I don't have more detail. 125

Question

Unknown
00:21:06-00:21:09 (3 sec)
On the aid trucks going into Gaza, you said 115 -- 126

John Kirby

Unknown
00:21:09-00:21:09 ( sec)
Right. 127

Question

Unknown
00:21:09-00:21:10 (1 sec)
-- and that that's not enough. 128

John Kirby

Unknown
00:21:10-00:21:13 (2 sec)
That's over the last 24 hours. 129

Question

Unknown
00:21:13-00:21:24 (11 sec)
Over the last 24 hours, but not enough, you had said. Have you -- do you feel that with these pauses that the pace has picked up a little bit, though -- that that's made a difference in the past couple of days? 130

John Kirby

Leans Negative
00:21:24-00:21:33 (9 sec)
What the pause have done -- I would -- it would be hard to draw a direct line between the pauses and the trucks going in. The pauses are largely in North Gaza, so away from the Rafah Crossing. 131

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:21:33-00:21:51 (18 sec)
What the pauses have done, though, predominantly, is allow people in North Gaza to leave. The Israelis now have two safe corridors -- one to the east and then one to the west along the coast road. And that's opened up more avenues for people to move by foot. 132

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:21:51-00:22:05 (15 sec)
So, it's really had an effect on -- on getting people out of harm's way, which we hope, just mathematically speaking, would help alleviate the risk -- the greater risk of civilian casualties because now there's now just fewer people in the crossfire. 133

John Kirby

Unknown
00:22:05-00:22:09 (4 sec)
But it hasn't really been tied to the Rafah Crossing. That work is ongoing. 134

Question

Slightly Positive
00:22:09-00:22:14 (5 sec)
So, going back to the Xi meeting, a slightly funner topic, but will -- 135

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:22:14-00:22:14 (1 sec)
More fun than the -- 136

Question

Unknown
00:22:14-00:22:15 ( sec)
Than the t-shirts? 137

John Kirby

Unknown
00:22:15-00:22:16 (1 sec)
-- matching shirts? 138

Question

Very Positive
00:22:16-00:22:17 (1 sec)
I know. More fun. 139

Question

Unknown
00:22:17-00:22:22 (5 sec)
Will President Biden ask President Xi about pandas and getting more pandas for the U.S.? 140

John Kirby

Positive
00:22:22-00:22:32 (10 sec)
We're sorry to see the pandas go. But, obviously, that was a sovereign decision by the PRC, and, of course, we have to respect that. 141

Question

Unknown
00:22:32-00:22:40 (8 sec)
Kirby, should -- will there be any U.S. action against Ukraine if it's found that they were at all involved in sabotaging the Nord Stream pipeline? 142

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:22:40-00:22:52 (12 sec)
Again, I'm not going to get ahead of what's active investigations here on the Nord Stream Two and the pipeline. And I'm certainly not going to speak hypothetically about what the results of that investigation might be. 143

John Kirby

Very Positive
00:22:52-00:23:08 (16 sec)
What we're focused on is making sure that Ukraine continues to get what they need. And right now, that's a -- it's a critical need as they are still fighting in this counteroffensive. And without supplemental funding, you know, we're going to -- we're going to have a harder time here. The runway is getting shorter and shorter for our ability to support them. 144

Question

Very Positive
00:23:08-00:23:20 (11 sec)
The President has a decision to make about a sanctions waiver on Iran that would free up $10 billion that's frozen, I believe, in an Iraqi bank. What's he going to decide and what is the justification for? 145

John Kirby

Unknown
00:23:20-00:23:22 (2 sec)
Won't get ahead of the President's decision making. 146

John Kirby

Very Negative
00:23:22-00:23:52 (31 sec)
But I will tell you this: We continue to hold Iran accountable. We've added force posture in the region. We have sanctioned, in two and a half years, some 400 entities -- 300 in just the last year alone -- for all manner of Iranian destabilizing behavior: the way they're treating their protesters, the way they're supporting Russia, and a -- and the way they're threatening maritime shippin- -- shipping in the Gulf Region. So, we're not turning any -- nobody is turning any blind eye to Iran's destabilizing activities. We're going to continue to keep that pressure on them. 147

John Kirby

Slightly Positive
00:23:52-00:23:54 (2 sec)
Okay? 148

Question

Somewhat Positive
00:23:54-00:23:55 (1 sec)
Thank you. 149

Question

Positive
00:23:55-00:23:56 (1 sec)
Thanks, Kirby. 150

John Kirby

Positive
00:23:56-00:23:56 ( sec)
Thanks. 151

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:23:56-00:24:01 (4 sec)
All right. Colleen? 152

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:24:01-00:24:03 (2 sec)
Hold on. It's a little bumpy. 153

Question

Unknown
00:24:03-00:24:05 (2 sec)
I know. I'm leaning against the side. 154

Question

Positive
00:24:05-00:24:20 (15 sec)
So, on the -- the CR, should the Hou- -- should the White House have come out so strongly against the two-tiered CR, especially now that it's looking like it might pass? Where are -- is the White House on it right now? 155

Karine Jean-Pierre

Leans Negative
00:24:20-00:24:37 (17 sec)
Look, not at all. Look, I'm -- and I'm going to quote something that -- that was -- that was in the statement from Saturday, which is "House Republicans need to stop wasting time on their own political divisions, [to] do their jobs, and work in a bipartisan way to prevent a shutdown." So, that is still very true. We are not going to back away from that. 156

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:24:37-00:25:04 (27 sec)
But we've -- we've been saying, and you heard from the President yesterday, you heard from me yesterday as well: We are in touch with that -- with both leadership in the Senate and in the House to talk about the best path forward for the American people. That's what we're -- we care about: How do we move forward for the American people? And so, we believe that House Republicans need to continue to do their jobs, right? We should not be here. We should not be just a couple of days away -- a place that we were before, as you all know, not too long ago -- and -- and so -- in September -- so, we should -- they should get this done. They should get this done. 157

Question

Positive
00:25:04-00:25:07 (3 sec)
Do you think the President will support the two-tier? 158

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:25:07-00:25:24 (17 sec)
So, they were having a conversation. "They," meaning the Democrats' leadership in the House and the Senate, and obviously they're going to be, from what I understand, voting on it today. And so, we're going to let that process happen. We're not going to get ahead of that process. 159

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:25:24-00:25:33 (9 sec)
The most important thing here is to make sure that we move forward and they -- in the best possible way for the American people. And that's where we're going to be on this. 160

Question

Unknown
00:25:33-00:25:37 (5 sec)
But the White House hasn't given an indication to Democrats that they should or should not -- 161

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:25:37-00:25:38 ( sec)
We're letting -- 162

Question

Unknown
00:25:38-00:25:38 (1 sec)
-- be voting on this? 163

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:25:38-00:25:47 (9 sec)
We're letting the process happen. We're letting the conversations and -- the conversation happen in the House and the Senate with Democrats. And there's going to be a vote, and we're going to see how this turns out. 164

Question

Positive
00:25:47-00:25:50 (3 sec)
So, if Democrats support this, the President would sign this? 165

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:25:50-00:26:06 (15 sec)
I'm not going to get into hypotheticals from here. I'm going to let the process happen in -- on the Capitol -- right? -- in Capitol Hill. Let them have a conversation. There's going to be a vote. We're just not going to get ahead of what they're going to decide to do. 166

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:26:06-00:26:13 (8 sec)
Again, we want to move in the best path forward for the American people. That's our -- that's our objective here. That's what we want to know. 167

Question

Unknown
00:26:13-00:26:17 (3 sec)
But has the President talked to congressional Democrats about this? 168

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:26:17-00:26:29 (13 sec)
So, as you know, our Legislative Affairs Office has been in touch with -- with the leadership in Congress -- and also -- and also our OMB director. We've been in touch with them for some time. 169

Karine Jean-Pierre

Positive
00:26:29-00:26:42 (13 sec)
Now, obviously, this is something that House Republicans have to fix. We've been very clear about that. And I don't have any calls -- we don't have any calls to read out of any conversation that the President has had. 170

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:26:42-00:26:55 (12 sec)
But obviously, on this trip, he's going to stay in close contact with the office of -- his team -- right? -- Office of Leg Affairs. He's going to stay in close contact with congressional leaders as well. Just don't have anything to preview at this time. 171

Question

Neutral
00:26:55-00:26:58 (3 sec)
Sorry, I didn't -- I'm just -- I just let everybody jump in. 172

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:26:58-00:26:58 (1 sec)
Yeah. 173

Question

Unknown
00:26:58-00:27:06 (8 sec)
But if this vote is happening in two hours -- the White House hasn't given Democrats any indication that the President would veto or sign this -- 174

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:27:06-00:27:06 (1 sec)
We -- 175

Question

Unknown
00:27:06-00:27:10 (4 sec)
-- even if they're about to take a vote in two hours? 176

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:27:10-00:27:13 (3 sec)
We've been -- that's not the first time. Right? 177

Question

Slightly Negative
00:27:13-00:27:14 (1 sec)
No, I know. But -- 178

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:27:14-00:27:16 (2 sec)
Right? There's been -- 179

Question

Somewhat Positive
00:27:16-00:27:19 (3 sec)
-- I'm saying, on something specific like this where there's such a -- 180

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:27:19-00:27:20 (1 sec)
I hear you. What -- 181

Question

Unknown
00:27:20-00:27:22 (2 sec)
-- so much at stake on Friday -- 182

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:27:22-00:27:36 (14 sec)
And that's exactly right. And we shouldn't be where we are today -- right? -- because so much is at stake. We're talking about vital programs for the American people. You're 1,000 percent right. We should not be here. And we've been very clear about that -- very clear about that. 183

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:27:36-00:27:48 (12 sec)
But what we're saying is: There's conversations happening on the Hill. Yes, the vote is happening -- I don't know -- in two hours, at four o'clock, but there's still conversations, right? They're still negotiating. They're still having conversations. We're just not going to get ahead of that. 184

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:27:48-00:27:56 (8 sec)
We're going to get the leadership in the Dem- -- in the -- and the Democrats' leadership in the House and the Senate, make those -- have those conversations. We're just not going to get ahead of that. 185

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:27:56-00:28:03 (7 sec)
What we want to see is a -- the best path forward for the American people. That's who we're putting first here. That's who is the most important thing. 186

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:28:03-00:28:31 (28 sec)
We're talking about critical, important programs that need to be funding -- funded to keep our law enforcement on the -- getting paid; to make sure our national security is -- is in -- is where it needs to be; to make sure education, food security, all of these things that are so vital to -- to Americans. That's what's our main priority, and that's what we're going to let the Democrat leadership in both the House and the Senate have those conversations. And that's what we want to see play out. And so, we're -- 187

Question

Unknown
00:28:31-00:28:31 ( sec)
So, would -- 188

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:28:31-00:28:33 (2 sec)
-- not going to get ahead of that. 189

Question

Unknown
00:28:33-00:28:37 (4 sec)
So, would the President be back in Washington, D.C., before a shutdown takes place? 190

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:28:37-00:28:45 (8 sec)
So, I know he just asked -- someone -- Emily just asked that question. Look, as you know, and you hear us say this all the time, the President is the president wherever he is, and that is the thing to remember. 191

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Positive
00:28:45-00:29:04 (20 sec)
And he -- he's going to stay in touch, again, with his team back home at the White House. He's going to, you know, stay in touch with congressional leaders. And he could do this anywhere, right? He can sign a bill anywhere. He can, you know, talk to them anywhere he is. He can be president anywhere -- anywhere in the country, certainly anywhere in the world. So, that is not going to -- that's not going to change. 192

Question

Somewhat Positive
00:29:04-00:29:10 (6 sec)
Karine, can I ask you -- earlier today at his remarks, the President sounded a little hoarse. He was coughing a lot. Is he feeling okay? 193

Karine Jean-Pierre

Leans Positive
00:29:10-00:29:11 ( sec)
He's feeling -- 194

Question

Unknown
00:29:11-00:29:11 ( sec)
What -- 195

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:29:11-00:29:22 (11 sec)
He's feeling -- he's looking forward to this trip. He's feeling good. You'll see for yourself after the -- after he has his meeting with President Xi, you're going to hear directly from the President. He'll take a few questions in his solo press conference. 196

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:29:22-00:29:31 (9 sec)
The President -- I just saw him. The President is very much looking forward to this trip -- this really important trip and consequential meeting with President Xi. So, that's what I can tell you. 197

Question

Unknown
00:29:31-00:29:33 (2 sec)
When was his last COVID test? 198

Question

Unknown
00:29:33-00:29:33 ( sec)
[Crosstalk] 199

Karine Jean-Pierre

Neutral
00:29:33-00:29:34 (1 sec)
I didn't hear that. Sorry, Emily. 200

Question

Unknown
00:29:34-00:29:35 (2 sec)
When was his last COVID test? 201

Karine Jean-Pierre

Positive
00:29:35-00:29:56 (20 sec)
I -- I can't speak to that. I -- you know, if COVID -- we're in a different place with COVID, as you know -- a very, very different place because of what this President has been able to do in getting COVID and getting this pan- -- getting us out of this pandemic, getting COVID under control. We are in a totally, totally different place. And I think that's important to note as well. 202

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:29:56-00:30:03 (8 sec)
So, we're not in the same place where -- obviously, I don't think you test every day right? So, we're just not in that same place. I just don't have any -- we don't have anything to share with you on that. 203

Question

Very Negative
00:30:03-00:30:16 (13 sec)
On Israel, Karine, you saw the protests today outside the White House. But also, I haven't heard anything from the White House on the death of a protester in California a few weeks back. He sustained some injuries during a protest in California. 204

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:30:16-00:30:18 (1 sec)
Can -- can you say that one more time? 205

Question

Neutral
00:30:18-00:30:24 (7 sec)
Yeah. A 69-year-old California man was -- he succumbed to injuries he sustained during a protest. 206

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:30:24-00:30:26 (1 sec)
Yeah, this is the -- the Jewish American? 207

Question

Positive
00:30:26-00:30:26 ( sec)
Yes. 208

Karine Jean-Pierre

Slightly Positive
00:30:26-00:30:26 ( sec)
Yeah. 209

Question

Positive
00:30:26-00:30:31 (5 sec)
Yes, I haven't heard anything from the White House on him. Has the White House reached out to his family or his community? 210

Question

Very Positive
00:30:31-00:30:40 (8 sec)
And then zooming out to the protests today that we saw, can the White House assure American Jews that they are safe in America? 211

Karine Jean-Pierre

Positive
00:30:40-00:30:58 (19 sec)
Yeah, so let me -- let me touch on the first -- the first question about the gentleman -- the protester, the -- the Jewish American. It's -- it's awful. It's devastating that happened. Obviously, our hearts go out to -- to the people who loved him, his family. 212

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:30:58-00:31:09 (11 sec)
And I don't have a -- we don't have any calls to read out, but obviously, we are sending our condolences to the family with that horrific, horrific event. 213

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:31:09-00:31:32 (23 sec)
What I will say about the marches -- that we welcome today's march. The President has been very clear about his unwavering support for Israel to defend itself against terrorism since Hamas -- Hamas's horrific terrorist attack on October 7th. And President Biden has taken historic actions to fight hate, including antisemitism, announcing more steps to combat -- combat it on campuses today. 214

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:31:32-00:31:48 (15 sec)
Federal, state, and local officials have made the saf- -- the safety of this event a priority and have worked to ensure that necessary precautions are enacted and resources are deployed to ensure the safety of everyone attending -- attending today's march. 215

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Positive
00:31:48-00:31:54 (6 sec)
We urge everyone to respect each other's First Amendment rights and not to engage in escalatory behavior. 216

Karine Jean-Pierre

Neutral
00:31:54-00:32:08 (14 sec)
And obviously, we take -- we take any hate crime on any group very seriously. And we've taken actions not just this year in the past couple of weeks, but obviously a year ago, we made -- we were very clear about where this administration stands. 217

Question

Unknown
00:32:08-00:32:12 (4 sec)
And you were at a roundtable about it with Neera Tanden last week. Can you just update us on how that -- 218

Karine Jean-Pierre

Unknown
00:32:12-00:32:13 (1 sec)
Say that one more time. 219

Question

Unknown
00:32:13-00:32:17 (4 sec)
I believe you had an event with the Domestic Policy Advisor on this last week. Can you just update us on any -- 220

Karine Jean-Pierre

Neutral
00:32:17-00:32:34 (17 sec)
I don't have anything to share. But obviously, the team -- the Domestic Policy team and other -- other members of the President's leadership -- White House leadership are going to continue to have conversation with leaders in different communities, as they're all dealing with what we're seeing: the increase in hate in the different groups. 221

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:32:34-00:32:47 (12 sec)
And I'm -- obviously, we're going to continue to call out antisemitism. We're going to continue to call out Islamophobia. And we're going to continue to say, any -- any violence, any hatred against any group is unacceptable. 222

Question

Very Negative
00:32:47-00:33:01 (14 sec)
Along those lines, we had a poll today that showed that one in three Asian and Pacific Island people in the United States faced some kind of racial abuse. I guess I wondered what's your message to that community and specific -- particularly as APEC is happening. 223

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Negative
00:33:01-00:33:17 (16 sec)
I mean, very sim- -- very similar, right? Any racism, xenophobia, intolerance is unacceptable. We're going to be -- continue to be very clear on that. This is something that the President has been clear on since he was running to be president back in 2017. So, this is -- we're going to continue to be consistent there. 224

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Negative
00:33:17-00:33:45 (28 sec)
So, President Biden and Vice President Harris have led a historic whole-of-government effort to combat such discriminat- -- discrimination facing Asian Americans, Native Hawaiians, and Pacific Islanders. That started their first week in office when the President issued a presidential memorandum leveraging the power of the federal government to stand against this hate. The President also signed the COVID-19 Hate Crimes Act into law and signed an executive order to reestablish the White House Initiative on AA and NHPIs. 225

Karine Jean-Pierre

Very Positive
00:33:45-00:34:04 (19 sec)
And earlier this year, we released the first-ever National Strategy to Advance Equity, Justice, and Opportunity for Asian American, Native Hawaiians, and Pacific Islander communities. The strategy details much-needer -- needed investments from 32 federal agencies, including improved data, language access, and combating anti-Asian hate. 226

Question

Leans Negative
00:34:04-00:34:20 (16 sec)
And then, in San Francisco, homeless advocates have been advoc- -- been pushing for a meeting with the President, especially given some criticism of a cleanup that's been happening around the city ahead of this meeting. Is he going to talk with them? Like, what are his thoughts on this -- 227

Karine Jean-Pierre

Somewhat Positive