In this wide-ranging, year-end conversation, Mary C. Curtis speaks with New York Times columnist Charles Blow about what he considers the dramatic rollback of the nation's civil rights, inequity and whether President Joe Biden has been proactive enough to help stem inequity. 

Show Notes:

• What do the battle against omicron and HUD Secretary Marcia Fudge have in common?
• ‘What has come of America?’
• ‘U.S. immigration policy is racist’
• Why universal pre-K may help stem crime
• ‘This is about whether or not we will have a democracy or an autocracy,’ Clyburn says on voting rights